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just like the title says i went on a 150km trip to pick up a set of used tires this guy was giving away. it was raining realy badly plus i had my mom in the car telling me to slow down so i was doing 90km per hour in 5th the whole time. To my amazment i got 58mpg.
suck on that hybrids :twisted:
MPG? or KPG? Big Dif.
I'd guess Kpg.
That would equate to roughly 36mpg. Which is a respectable and believable highway Mpg.
ive hit just below 50MPG before after drafting behind trucks
lol...
can you show you're MATH? it's not that i don't believe you it's more like I think you're math is offQuote:
Originally Posted by o4aveohb
I don't get it my cavalier when I had it got about 40 mpg highway.
4 liters per 100km = 58.8mpg
that would be KPG not MPG you need 4 Liters = 1 Gallon & 1 KM = 0.6213712 Miles orQuote:
Originally Posted by deniswhite1
1 liters/100 km = 235.2145833 miles/gallon(US)
Or you can use this http://www.onlineconversion.com/fuel_consumption.htm On Line Conversions
Sorry Dude but you're math is way off just as i thought but if you ask Aveoscam I am way to dumb to know that!
thats what i used, ok who is smoking crack?Quote:
Originally Posted by B1rdbrain
4l per 100km= 94.6kpg=58.8mpg
dude, denis is correct, 4 L/100 km is 58 mpg... what are you smokin'?? Aveosam is right about you...
the metric fuel economy numbers are inverted i.e. volume per distance, instead of distance per volume.
So you have to take you 235 mpg and divide by 4, which gives you your 58.
I thought about cluttering this thread with a "pwned" or "fail" picture but then ya might be a bit sensitive to cluttery pictures taking up thread space! jfwy
ill do it then.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...ey17/pwned.jpg
You are smoking crack thats who is smoking crack! you need to Fill the tank Full start the trip counter drive till the light turns on to get more gas you take the new tank of gas amount and devide it by the trip counter that is how you get the MPG like my 04 sadan gets 32mpg on the highway and about 27-28mpg on the street. So put the Crack pipe down and go find out the real MPG on you're car. Dumbass!Quote:
Originally Posted by deniswhite1
not really wanting to get involed in this epic fight of pretty much everyone against B1rdbrain but it just seems like this arguement is about two different things. one is the conversion of the imperial measurement of fuel economy of Miles/Gallon to the metirc one of Litres/100km, and how to accuratly measure said fuel economy. so chill everyone.
First of all, one Canadian gallon is 4.54Liters and one US gallon is 3.78L...so you guys are comparing appes to oranges.
ok so wat units are we using here? us gallons or canadian gallons? im sure the way denis did it doesn't make it comparable to what us U.S. owners are thinking...i heard of U.S owners getting ~40+mpg , nothing in the 50 range so common sense leads me to believe the math is being done in a way that isnt comparable to how we calculate our mpg in the US. But i'd like to take this oppertunity to point out how birdbrain change the subject of his posts once he got pwned in his calculation, same thing he does everytime he gets pwned
i converted mine 4l per 100km to US gallons not canadian gallons
i thought aveo owners would be happy to hear of such good milege insted there is beefin about random ****e
seems to be a trend right now...
no its cool if you did it, but its just hard to believe you got in the high 50's for mpg when the highest I have ever heard of was the 40's, so that means your getting 10+mpg then the best that has talked about which is a big jump in mpg...anything around 5mpg more could have been believable but 10 plus sounds too good to be true and you know what they say about that...if it sounds to good to be true then it probably is. now your math for the conversion of 100KM/4L to 58.8 miles per US gal is good but I am just wondering how you came up with 100KM/4L?Quote:
Originally Posted by deniswhite1
y2daniel got over 50 mpg with his aveo.
did he? i thought he was the one who got in the 40'sQuote:
Originally Posted by mikedudley17
ugh, dont make me search......plz...
lol yeh he got over 50, if u go to his vid on youtube he mentions it there in the comments section.
speak of the devil, where is dan, havent seen him around.
dont worry i do my own leg work....yea he did get 51mpg its in the gas mileage thread, makes this a little bit more believeable but its funny cause daniels first two legs are in the 30s then booms jumps up to 51...must have been going down hill with the wind at his back
I was on the Empty light and filled up exactly 3 gallons, and drove to school 140 miles away..so about 46mpg..still really good gas mileage, but like I said I was behind tractor trailers for about 80 miles of that., and keeping it under 3k rpm's most times.
i filled up full tank, i used just a lil bit over 6L on a 150km trip all highway, and then filled up again and thats how many Liters i needed for a full tank doing 90km/hQuote:
Originally Posted by AVE0SAM
so im the gas milege champ right now?
PS: if i didn't have my sub in the hatch, 4 tires in the back seat, a passenger, and a full tank of gas, i would of hit 60mpg for shure.
Here is a Great Calculator to help with the LITERS PER 100KM vs. MPG (US) vs. MPG (IMPERIAL) issue.
Dennis, don't expect anyone to believe your 58mpg claim til you can present it maturely and back it up with scientific reasoning: i.e., precise, clear communication backed up with hard data.
By contrast, for example, there is a fellow over on GMinsidenews.com named Wolfman01 who's figured out how to get over 40mpg in his 2006 Aveo5 5-speed... but if you ask him how, he won't mention his mother sitting next to him as one of the reasons he gets good mileage.
When I asked him how he acheived his mileage, he listed these rules:
* First: slow down: max speed of 55 mph ever.
* Minimize hard acceleration.
* Don't let the car warm up in the driveway.
* Look well ahead in traffic, allow the vehicle to "coast" often.
* Plan stops into routes, to minimize time spent bouncing back and forth
* Maintenance - synthetic oil, correct tire pressure, car in good tune.
He's regularly able to get 40+ mpg -- but with fairly extraordinary means. His lifetime average is 35mpg.
Now, unless your mother is a sorceress, what gives?
My conclusion: it's interesting Dennis, that you got 58mpg, but anecdotal. Try again another time, let us know how you do. If it did happen once, and I'm hard pressed to believe you, do let us know if you can repeat the experiment.
Dennis' Mileage Score to Date: 0 Points.
i beleive it was presented simply and maturely, as for scientific reasoning it was not my intention to, all i did was present a fact of 58mpg and how i achieved it. its not my job to prove scientific theorys of why i got the milege that i did, and nor do i need to prof what i got.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcm84
a max of 55mph? damn guess i wont be getting 40 mpg anytime soon...the reasoning for a max of 55mph is because thats the average max speed before air resistance really starts working against you
Dennis, you're probably better off not saying your 58mpg is factual, unless you have some real insight into how you achieved it and how it can be replicated. Otherwise you just look silly.Quote:
i beleive it was presented simply and maturely, as for scientific reasoning it was not my intention to, all i did was present a fact of 58mpg and how i achieved it. its not my job to prove scientific theorys of why i got the milege that i did, and nor do i need to prof what i got.
Facts are verifiable.
Your claim is 40% higher than a high mileage figure by someone who supports their claim with five fuel-saving behaviors -- and backs up their data with a lifetime mileage claim as well. Again, is your mother magic?
Your posts show a sloppy disregard for writing precision (lack of capitalization, mispelled "believe," mispelled "prove"). Are you this sloppy and hurried when calculating mileage? It's an easy inference to make.
Your mileage claim is an anecdote... an amusing anecdote, not to be believed.
Dennis' Mileage Score to Date: 0 Points.
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Originally Posted by pcm84
wow! does this sound familiar or what?
*cough holden cough barina cough, ahem*
Yeah Im here, I was gone for about a week. I got 55mpg once and yes I was doing like 55mph and keeping the rpms below 3k
winter house renovations...Quote:
Originally Posted by mikedudley17
That does take a lot of time when you're also trying to work and search for another jobQuote:
Originally Posted by xtreme 2
indeed, totally understandable. good to have you back dan!
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Originally Posted by pcm84
who's to say that this "wolfman" is a credible source? for all you know he can be bull****tin you. look, dennis says he made a great acheivement with his aveo. thinking rationally, it is a very difficult thing to prove unless you are there with him or whatever. not saying you cant question it but stop givin him such a rough time about it.
nice find with the calculator deal btw!
Wolfman's numbers are credible, for one thing, because his gives his lifetime average along with evidence of record keeping... and because he demonstrated the relationship between specific behavior and better mileage. He presents himself well, with a mastery of the rudiments of spelling, grammer, and punctuation.
It's possible to follow a series of Wolfman's threads on the subject, making it clear his mileage figures are not flukes -- but the result of diligence.
Dennis claims a one-time outragious figure 56% higher than the 2007 EPA highway figure (already considered so unreliable they were changed in 2008), offers no real correlating data except that he went 90kph, and presents the information in poorly constructed English. His suggestion that his mother was sitting next to him is amusing.
Wolfman's story is plausible -- and boring even: he exerts himself and gets good results.
Dennis' story is interesting, you want to believe it, it's amazing, it's fantastic... he exert's very little effort and bingo, is rewarded with mileage that's... er... historic!
Sorry. No Points for Dennis.
mmmmmmmmm appes???
yeh, and other people have laid claim to over 50 mpg with their aveos. are you gonna try and pick apart their stories too? i mean good lord, y does he have to say what happened to him in a scientific fashion? as far as u and i know, denis is not a scientist, but rather an everyday joe like you or i. he doesnt have to have PeRfeCt GraMMEr when posting his situation. in fact that has nothing to do with what this thread is actually about-at all! nor does the fact of whether or not his mother was in his car with him matter to you so stop incenuating that his mom is a scorceress or whatever cus thats just ****in rude. (yeh i swore so what!?!)
let me get back on point here, there is a chance that he got over 50 mpg. but to compare his result to some other guys result dont mean ****. all cars are made different even if they are the same. even if they are the same motors they are going to act differently according to what is done to the motor, how it was broke in, machining flaws and so forth. then there are always different circumstances that we can and cannot control. ie tire pressure and wind are an example of each. u see what im saying.
this is a forum not a scientific essay, plus most of the people on this forum are aware that english is my second language, and when i post here its when im relaxing from school and writing formal essays, and scientific papers (i have a power enginering degree, and working on my BA in heath science) so don't be picky about my spelling and don't insult my intelligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcm84
oh and please don't be ignorant because my username is deniswhite1, and my name is Denis, but you keep calling me Dennis.
my secong point is: what makes you belive that other guy who gets 40mpg, and explains why he THINKS he gets it in a scientific way is telling the truth. what if he is making it up? have you seen paper work and gas recipts, oh and his odometer? i belive i deserve a bit of trust beause i have never made a false statment on this board ever since i joined in the summer of 2004, and was selected to be one of the the admins for the board year after. (just before the switch to this domain).
basicly what im saying is what its your problem bro, have i done something to offend you?
PS: i was doing 90km/h not mph reread my first post stop comfusing others with changing my numbers
I don't beleive it i Still think you're Math is Wrong. the best i ever got was 36mpg and that was my trip to Palm Srings then to Parker AZ then Back to Palm Springs then home to Reseda. all freeway Driving thats with a 2004 Aveo Sadan with an Automatic trans and loaded down with my camping gear. i made Sure that the tires had PSI needed per the hand book a Full take of gas and did the trip from Door to door. kept on the freeway For most of the trip and never went over 80mph