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      With all this talk of higher gas mileage...

      http://video.google.com/googleplayer.sw ... 7391832035

      New product I started offering, but have not marketed at all... Supposed to claim up to 30% increase in gas mileage and a 5% increase in ponypower. Also claims as a tax deduction since it's greenhouse approved.

      In action:
      http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_ ... kZQgGBEQw-

      My cost is $860... anyone wanna give it a try?


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      I'd be a guinea pig for free... but I'm not spending $860 on an electrolyzer when they've been proven to not work time and time again. I'd need to see a proper scientific study to be convinced that "in combination" the system works.

      A 30% increase in efficiency is hard to swallow.
      Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far the wall moves after you hit it.

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      yea that's what I am thinking...
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      I remember special I saw about a guy that frozen his engine components with dry ice or something to that effect and claims he gets almost 100 mpg.

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      found this link on a Lambo forum: http://www.onecryo.com/

      here's the article: http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?s=3390503

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      you could make your own at home, just let me find the websites.

      Here we go: http://waterpoweredcar.com/simplebooster.html

      If you search around some more, you will be able to find better plans. But one word of advice.

      These guys do not have any chemical knowledge whatsoever. They think bubleing up the mixture with exhaust will help the engine suck more hydrogen out. this is FALSE. A chemical reaction like water decomposition with happen faster with negative pressure in the container. The reason it works is because the chemical reaction of electrolysis is more efficient at higher temperatures. Exhaust gases from the intake manifold are very high.

      Secondo, you shouldn't really get a "pulsing" device like they said. Electrolysis only happens when using DC current. Getting that device that will convert 20amps at 12volts to 2volts and 120 amps is asking for trouble.

      Thirdly. Them hot exhaust gases evaporate water. That evaporated water will go directly in your engine and will rust components and even damaged them during winter.

      Quattro. The brownish/red sludge is the oxygen reacting with the iron and nickel in the stainless steel. Iron oxide is what we call rust.

      Cinqo. The maximum theoretical efficiency of electrolysis is 80% to 90%. combine that with the power lost thru the friction (engine) and alternator, the max efficiency delivered by this system is substantially lower. Less than 100% efficiency costs you money (in form of more gas).

      Six. This method requires you to unplug the first oxygen sensor and monitor stichiometric ratio using a device that can only tell you if you're close (12 - 16:1)

      Seven. look here: http://www.savefuel.ca/hydrogen/mileage.php?id=mileage. They let an engine idle at 1500 rpm. They switched the cell on and the engine turned 1940 rpm. (1940-1500)/1500 = 30%. WHAT THE ****!!! This doesn't prove you'll get better gas mileage. It just proves you're getting more fuel in the engine.

      They are ****ing liars trying to get you to buy a 800$ peice of junk that you can make for almost nothing, that probably willl ruin your engine and cost you more in fuel economy.




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