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Idle Issue...
Wow, my car has a little over 3000KM's and already an issue.
When the car is warmed up pretty good, when I get to a stop, the engine dies. Sometimes it will make it but it stalls at stops.
I see the RPM gauge go down really fast and then either stalls or comes back up and studders.
I have an appointement for an oil change I'll talk to the service guy.
But dang, I'm disapointed that I'm having issues already.
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Re: Idle Issue...
could be a vacuum line or maybe the usual tune up stuff (air filter, plugs, wires, fuel system cleaning)
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I could see maybe a vac line being deffective but it's a new car, shouldn't need a tune up yet...
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There is a recall, dealing with the fuel line .. maybe the prob ur having? not sure how it would work... but figured id at least mention it
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Vertain models had a ECU recall from what I remember. But my money is that it is a vaccum issue. Take it to the dealership, have them check it out. With 3000Km on the car, it should be well within warranty reapir.
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bring to dealer and post back.
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it's under warranty, don't waste your time here. Post the outcome though.
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ECU issue was that the ECU was dying due to cold. You couldn't start it whatsoever. This isn't it... vacuum as mentioned, or bad IAC valve... try a reset (reset the ECU and then do the IAC reset):
Idle Air Control Valve Reset Procedure
Whenever the battery cable or the Engine Control Module (ECM) connector or the ECM fuse EF22 is disconnected or replaced, the following idle learn procedure must be performed:
Turn the ignition ON for 5 seconds.
Turn the ignition OFF for 10 seconds.
Turn the ignition ON for 5 seconds.
Start the engine in park/neutral.
Allow the engine to run until the engine coolant is above 185°F (85°C).
Turn the A/C ON for 10 seconds, if equipped.
Turn the A/C OFF for 10 seconds, if equipped.
If the vehicle is equipped with an automatic transaxle, apply the parking brake. While pressing the brake pedal, place the transaxle in D (drive).
Turn the A/C ON for 10 seconds, if equipped.
Turn the A/C OFF for 10 seconds, if equipped.
Turn the ignition OFF. The idle learn procedure is complete.
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When I first bought my Aveo back in 04 a similar problem developed where it kept stalling everytime I came to a traffic light. I was told by the dealership that it was a vacuum line installed when the car was built that was not long enough, and had stretched to the point of ripping. Thus causing a leak. Line replaced, problem solved. Just an idea.
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Thanks guys! I like to get info here first before the dealer tries to sneak one by me.
It does look like the vac like symptoms. I'm taking it in tomorrow and will keep you posted.
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UPDATE....
They told me to wait and see if a CEL would come on. LMAO! I said, sure, it could also be bad gas because it's since last fillup. But trust me, it's not over yet, he knew by the look I had when he said that. I'll let it ride longer, if no one does anything, I'm seing the owner directly. If that doesn't work, GM Canada. I'm getting tired of crap like that.
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The only vacuum line big enough to give you trouble is the brake booster line. Check it. If you hear some hissing, you'll know right away it's leaking. It could also be the air filter compartment that is not properly shut. Check that also.
If the fuel tank is half full, get a fill up. Other than that, I'd say try another dealership if there is one that is close enough. Maybe call a Pontiac dealership and see if they can give you warranty on it.
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For reals,
Take it to a different dealership. If the dealer you took it to is telling you to wait for a light to come on, they are not a decent service shop to begin with. When I take my car to the dealer for any service related work, they ask me what the problem is, then take it back to the shop to check it. If it is a real issue (like when they replaced the heater core), they fix it. If it isn't an issue (I took it in for my MP3 player, and found it was just the burner I was using causing scratches in the disk), they checked it out completely and explained that it was the CDs or the burner I was using, not the player. Either way, no cost to check it out.
Remember, they work for you. Your car is under warranty, if they are not honoring that warranty, then you need to take it to a decent dealership, and wage a complaint with GM over the service of that dealership.
If your car is not running correctly, THEY need to fix it. And for the first 3 years or 36,000 miles, they have an obligation to do so, to YOUR satisfaction.
That is part of what you pay for with a new car. It is included with the price.
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What do you do if the CEL doesnt come on, and the car isnt blowing any codes to be found and it still runs like garbage? Vacuum problem? Can you disconnect the battery and reset the ECM to see if that makes any difference which wouldnt in a vacuum leak problem. I would do what gene said and find a reputable dearlership and get your answer once and for all. I would tend to believe that if it were a tps, map,or oxy sensor problem than that would alert the ECM and trigger the CEL.
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Quite a weird thing... Now it hasn't happened in a good while. I think it might have been bad gas... I have sincde filled up at least 3 times and no issues.
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seafoam ur car and see if anything comes out the exhaust. hell it wont hurt just to do it anyways.
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Hi all,
I bought a 2011 AVEO 1.4 LT (F14D4 / T255 Hatchback) but I found the little(?) problem.
if I starting in cold, idling fluctutating but after 2-4 seconds the problem dissapears: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hVBbnTvV7c
i tried cleaning the throttle body and i tried relearn idle the following description: http://www.aveoforum.com/forum/f108/idle-issue-8765/ but when i start engine first the problem are stronger for 30-40 seconds but after 30-40 seconds the problem dissapears. After i restart engine in cold, the problem are same. SCAN 100 diagnostic showed no problem.
Throttle body cleaned
Air filter changed
Fuel filter changed
Spark plugs changed
Pls help me!
Sorry my english!
Thanks,
Szabolcs