Seafoam questions and concerns
Ok I know this has been covered in a couple thread but some things mentioned have left me worried. I would really like to try this stuff seeing as I opened up the butterfly valve and felt inside and there was a bunch of oily residue. This is what concerns me:
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Warning: your O2 sensors and/or spark plugs may get moderately dirtier if this is the first time you've cleaned your intake manifold and/or throttle body. You may wish to do this for the first time right before you install new ones.
combined with what happened in daniels thread: http://www.aveoclub.net/phpBB3/viewt...&hilit=seafoam
The spark plugs I can deal with getting messed up seeing as I planned to change them anyway, but o2 sensors are a different story because i think i remember them being expensive when I had to replace one before. And the reason I had to replace it before is because my intake sucked in a good amount of oil and when it burnt up it fouled up the plug. So what are the chances of the o2 plug getting messed up?
A couple more questions I have too. one is how long do I keep it in the oil? and the other is who has done it on the aveo? also where does it get sucked into the engine at, picture please if possible?
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When we had the SeaFoam rep here at work I asked him when he thought you should start using SeaFoam in a new car and he said the day you drive the car off the lot. He also told us that you can leave it in the oil between oil changes you don't have to drain the oil after a few days unless it is the first time you are using it, then you should drain it and put fresh oil and SeaFoam in because the oil gets dirty very fast the first time you use it. One of the guys here has had it in his car for over a year and he hasn't had a problem.
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Originally Posted by PartsChick
When we had the SeaFoam rep here at work I asked him when he thought you should start using SeaFoam in a new car and he said the day you drive the car off the lot. He also told us that you can leave it in the oil between oil changes you don't have to drain the oil after a few days unless it is the first time you are using it, then you should drain it and put fresh oil and SeaFoam in because the oil gets dirty very fast the first time you use it. One of the guys here has had it in his car for over a year and he hasn't had a problem.
yea see thats the thing, hes used it since he got the car. Now my thinking is this, it loosens up all the grim, but the amount of grim depends on how long you have had the car and the last time youve used seafoam. So i have 65,000 miles on my car (4 years) and never used seafoam so I image there will be alot of crap to burn. I don't want that crap to foul my o2 sensor....anyone have any experience with my situation?
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The rep said you will not have a problem because Seafoam is o2 sensor safe. Kleen Flo has a similar product that only goes in the fuel. The thing about seafoam is all the carbon is burned up in the combustion chamber so it won't harm the o2. My uncle put it in his truck and he has not had a problem and the oil turned black in two days. Then he changed the oil again and the truck runs like a dream.
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anyone else have any experience with it
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i always just stick half in the crankcase and half in gas tank. drive a while, then go get an oil change. i also pour a bit into the throttle body but not much, just a lil. thats it. it dont hurt nuthin.
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i always just stick half in the crankcase and half in gas tank. drive a while, then go get an oil change. i also pour a bit into the throttle body but not much, just a lil. thats it. it dont hurt nuthin.
what method did you use to get it in the crank case?
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Originally Posted by mikedudley17
i always just stick half in the crankcase and half in gas tank. drive a while, then go get an oil change. i also pour a bit into the throttle body but not much, just a lil. thats it. it dont hurt nuthin.
what method did you use to get it in the crank case?
open up oil cap while its runnin and pour.
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i dont have any experience with seafoam in the car but i use it in my BMW K1200LT motorcycle and it made a notable difference.
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i dont have any experience with seafoam in the car but i use it in my BMW K1200LT motorcycle and it made a notable difference.
i have a good feeling it will just from what i got on my finger from beyond the butterfly valve. especially in my aveo because i got oil sucked in through my intake and burned up in the engine by accident :roll: .... i am more worried about the side effects on the o2 sensor than if it will help.
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ur o2 will be fine, i think ive done sea foam 3-4 times and i just got a good look at my upstram o2 and it looked normal. since u wanna clean ur throttle body good, start car and remove vacume hose from crankcase and suck down a good 1/3 bottle at least (while car is runnin).
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I've used about 10 cans of seafoam total on several different cars. All of them I sucked up about a 1/3 of the bottle through a vacuum hose while someone sat in the car and reved it just enough so it wouldn't stall. After that I let the vacuum suck up another 1/3 of the bottle as quickly as possible then killed the engine and waited 5mins to an hour. Never done harm yet and my forenza will blow out tons of smoke for 20+ mins at ~3k RPM.
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Do you attribute the smoke that comes out the exhaust to the deposits being burned, or the sea foam itself being burned?
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What kittyllama said is my reply, but also don't forget after waiting about 10 minutes with the engine off, turn it back on and run it for about 10-20 mins to get the last of the seafoam and carbon out, otherwise if you don't it'll just get stuck back on the engine parts.
The smoke that comes out is both, but mostly carbon. My mom's car has like 125k miles on it, mine has about 48k, when I did both of the cars they both spewed smoke, but my mom's car had mabye 2-3x more than mine, it got so bad that one of my neighbors almost called the fire department cause there was so much smoke.
The bottom line is though if you see white smoke, it's a good thing. The vaccuum hose is the best way to put it in the engine, and I don't really know about the O2 sensor, but if you put it in the Aveo's vaccuum line it won't affect it (unless mabye the smoke gets sucked into the intake or something ;D)
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I've used about 10 cans of seafoam total on several different cars. All of them I sucked up about a 1/3 of the bottle through a vacuum hose while someone sat in the car and reved it just enough so it wouldn't stall. After that I let the vacuum suck up another 1/3 of the bottle as quickly as possible then killed the engine and waited 5mins to an hour. Never done harm yet and my forenza will blow out tons of smoke for 20+ mins at ~3k RPM.
do i need a second person or can I just do a 1/3 of the bottle then shut the car off?
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Yeah thats what I have done before kinkyllama.
Sam: You could do it yourself if you can find a way to hold the hose in the can and slightly pull the throttle. But easiest way is to have a friend
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Yeah thats what I have done before kinkyllama.
Sam: You could do it yourself if you can find a way to hold the hose in the can and slightly pull the throttle. But easiest way is to have a friend
I think I pour some of the seaform in a container and pull the throttle.....that way it doesnt suck down the whole bottle lol
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Yeah thats what I have done before kinkyllama.
Sam: You could do it yourself if you can find a way to hold the hose in the can and slightly pull the throttle. But easiest way is to have a friend
I think I pour some of the seaform in a container and pull the throttle.....that way it doesnt suck down the whole bottle lol
WAY late responding here... how about pour the other 2/3 into your tank first, then you wont have to worry about a seperate container or sucking out too much ;)
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not late at all...still havent got around to doing it :lol:
