2005 Thermostat issues? Do they make a low temp one?

[Burgman]

Thanks for all the replies, looks like this car just wasn't made to handle Alberta winters, however, I'll keep looking for a 205F thermostat as well. Thanks for the link josefb134, unfortunately, that is a USA site and doesn't deliver to Canada (for cheap anyway), I'll take a look around the city and see what I can find.

I'm more relieved than anything that the car is not in need of major work to fix the problem.

I'll bet I'm one of the few with a radio that is unable to turn up the volume when its really cold as well, as soon as you touch the volume, it goes right to zero and is very difficult to turn up. LOL

[josefb134]

hmmm... maybe see about geting a different radio put in haha and yepp no problem, you might be able to get on amazon.com and look for a 205 thermostat, their shipping rates for canada are fond here

Amazon.com Help: Canada

and dont look too bad. if you have the metal housing already then you might be able to just buy a 205 thermostat without the housing and you should be good to go, but dont take my word for it lol

[Lola]

I was doin some serious Googlin and found this bit of info. We use a standard type 48mm Thermostat. I typed 48mm Thermostat in NAPA online and found part number THM 383 as a standard type 48mm 205* Thermostat.... I'm gonna order that and a new Aveo O-ring tomorrow...... I'll post with pics when it arrives...

This isn't the first time I've done this either... When I built my highly modified Off Road Subaru it was common in the Subaru forums to run a 160* Thermostat from a Ford 460 to help from over heating.

This is a list of vehicles that come from the same part number Thermostat..... Same part number... same part....

BUICK (9) 1982-1987


SKYHAWK (6) 1982-1987
1987 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin K
1986 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1985 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1982 L4-112ci 1.8L 2 BBL Vin G
SKYHAWK (CAN) (2) 1983-1984
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L CARB Vin B
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L CARB Vin B
SKYLARK (1) 1985-1985
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W

CADILLAC (7) 1982-1986
CIMARRON (7) 1982-1986
1986 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
1985 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1982 L4-112ci 1.8L 2 BBL Vin G

CHEVROLET (47) 1982-2008
AVEO (6) 2004-2008
2008 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
2008 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I (MEX)
2007 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
2006 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
2005 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
2004 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
AVEO5 (3) 2006-2008
2008 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
2007 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
2006 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
BLAZER S10/T10 (9) 1983-1989
1989 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1988 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1987 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin Y
1984 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1983 L4-121ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin Y
1983 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
CAMARO (7) 1982-1988
1988 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin S
1987 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin S
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin S
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin S
1984 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin 1
1983 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin 1
1982 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin 1
CAVALIER ( 1982-1986
1986 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
1985 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin B
1982 L4-112ci 1.8L 2 BBL Vin G
CAVALIER (CAN) (1) 1984-1984
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L CARB Vin B
CELEBRITY (2) 1985-1986
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
CITATION II (1) 1985-1985
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
PICKUP S10/T10 (10) 1982-1989
1989 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1988 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1987 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1984 L4-121ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin Y
1984 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1983 L4-121ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin Y
1983 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1982 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B

CHRYSLER (3) 1989-1990
TC (2) 1989-1990
1990 L4-2213cc 2.2L F/I TURBO Vin R
1989 L4-2213cc 2.2L F/I TURBO Vin R
TC MASERATI (1) 1989-1989
1989 L4-2213cc 2.2L F/I TURBO Vin P

FORD (21) 1971-1982
COURIER (6) 1977-1982
1982 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin 2
1981 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin 2
1980 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin B
1979 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin B
1978 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin B
1977 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin B
FAIRMONT (1) 1978-1978
1978 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
MUSTANG II (5) 1974-1978
1978 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1977 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1976 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1975 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1974 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
PINTO (9) 1971-1978
1978 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1977 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1976 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1975 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1974 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin X
1974 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1973 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin X
1972 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin X
1971 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin X

GMC (19) 1982-1989
JIMMY S15/T15 (9) 1983-1989
1989 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1988 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1987 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin Y
1984 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin Y
1983 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
PICKUP S15/T15 (10) 1982-1989
1989 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1988 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1987 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin R
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin Y
1984 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin Y
1983 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B
1982 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin B

ISUZU (1) 1989-1989
TROOPER II (1) 1989-1989
1989 V6-2827cc 2.8L F/I Vin R

JEEP (7) 1984-1986
CHEROKEE (3) 1984-1986
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin W
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin W
1984 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin W
COMANCHE (1) 1986-1986
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin W
WAGONEER (3) 1984-1986
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin W
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin W
1984 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin W

MERCURY (9) 1971-1977
BOBCAT (3) 1975-1977
1977 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1976 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1975 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
CAPRI (4) 1971-1974
1974 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin NA
1973 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin NA
1972 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin NA
1971 L4-122ci 2.0L 2 BBL Vin NA
CAPRI II (2) 1976-1977
1977 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y
1976 L4-140ci 2.3L 2 BBL Vin Y

OLDSMOBILE (10) 1982-1986
CUTLASS CIERA (1) 1986-1986
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
FIRENZA (7) 1982-1986
1986 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
1985 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1982 L4-112ci 1.8L 2 BBL Vin G
FIRENZA (CAN) (2) 1983-1984
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L CARB Vin B
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L CARB Vin B

OPEL (11) 1967-1972
DELUXE (1) 1971-1971
1971 L4-1077cc 1.1L CARB
GT (1) 1969-1969
1969 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2x1 BBL
KADETT (6) 1967-1972
1972 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2x1 BBL
1971 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2x1 BBL
1970 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2x1 BBL
1969 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2x1 BBL
1968 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2 BBL
1967 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2 BBL
KADETT RALLYE (3) 1967-1969
1969 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2x1 BBL
1968 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2 BBL
1967 L4-1077cc 1.1L 2 BBL

PONTIAC (32) 1982-2008
2000 (1) 1984-1984
1984 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
6000 (2) 1985-1986
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin W
FIREBIRD (7) 1982-1988
1988 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin S
1987 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin S
1986 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin S
1985 V6-173ci 2.8L F/I Vin S
1984 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin 1
1983 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin 1
1982 V6-173ci 2.8L 2 BBL Vin 1
J2000 (3) 1982-1983
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1983 L4-122ci 2.0L CARB Vin B
1982 L4-112ci 1.8L 2 BBL Vin G
LEMANS (6) 1988-1993
1993 L4-1588cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
1992 L4-1588cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
1991 L4-1588cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
1990 L4-1588cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
1989 L4-1588cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
1988 L4-1588cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
OPTIMA (CAN) (4) 1988-1991
1991 L4-1606cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
1990 L4-1606cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
1989 L4-1606cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
1988 L4-1606cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
SUNBIRD (2) 1985-1986
1986 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
1985 L4-122ci 2.0L F/I Vin P
WAVE (CAN) (4) 2005-2008
2008 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
2007 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
2006 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I Vin 6
2005 L4-98ci 1.6L F/I Vin 6
WAVE5 (3) 2005-2007
2007 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I
2006 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I
2005 L4-1598cc 1.6L F/I

SAAB (20) 1967-1974
95 (6) 1968-1973
1973 V4-1698cc 1.7L 1 BBL Vin V4
1972 V4-1698cc 1.7L CARB Vin V4
1971 V4-1698cc 1.7L CARB Vin V4
1970 V4-1498cc 1.5L CARB
1969 V4-1498cc 1.5L CARB
1968 V4-1498cc 1.5L CARB
96 (6) 1968-1973
1973 V4-1698cc 1.7L CARB Vin V4
1972 V4-1698cc 1.7L CARB Vin V4
1971 V4-1698cc 1.7L CARB Vin V4
1970 V4-1498cc 1.5L CARB
1969 V4-1498cc 1.5L CARB
1968 V4-1498cc 1.5L CARB
MONTE CARLO (1) 1967-1967
1967 V4-1498cc 1.5L CARB
SONETT (7) 1968-1974
1974 V4-1698cc 1.7L 1 BBL Vin V4
1973 V4-1698cc 1.7L 1 BBL Vin V4
1972 V4-1698cc 1.7L CARB Vin V4
1971 V4-1698cc 1.7L CARB Vin V4
1970 V4-1698cc 1.7L CARB

1969 V4-1498cc 1.5L CARB
1968 V4-1498cc 1.5L CARB

[Lola]

Nope..... not gonna happen. My buddy at NAPA had the THM 383 in stock and it's actually a 54mm. But it pulls up under search for 48mm. He said that's stupid, good thing I have'm in stock. The Aveo 195* Thermostat had 48mm stamped on the flange so that's right. Comes out to about 1.89 inches. I just spent over an hour on the NAPA website and looked at the 1,500 (!) items that pulled up under thermostat and every cross reference and all brands.... Only about 5 were above 195* and the sizes were way too far off to fit. It can easily be done if you feel like sittin' down with sheet metal sheers and the housing and cut a bigger one down to fit it, which is actually a pretty good idea..........

[Burgman]

I'm going to try and insulate the rad as much as possible with either foil bubble insulation or my co-worker told me to find a plastic sign. The cardboard I have in right now is good but does let some cold air through.

[petrified.rabbit]

Nope..... not gonna happen. My buddy at NAPA had the THM 383 in stock and it's actually a 54mm. But it pulls up under search for 48mm. He said that's stupid, good thing I have'm in stock. The Aveo 195* Thermostat had 48mm stamped on the flange so that's right. Comes out to about 1.89 inches. I just spent over an hour on the NAPA website and looked at the 1,500 (!) items that pulled up under thermostat and every cross reference and all brands.... Only about 5 were above 195* and the sizes were way too far off to fit. It can easily be done if you feel like sittin' down with sheet metal sheers and the housing and cut a bigger one down to fit it, which is actually a pretty good idea..........

it would make more sense to use your old thermostat, and change the spring out to the other temperature..

[Burgman]

Well, here's my update. After finding the forum and clicking around, I found out thanks to you folks, that I should change my timing belt (I don't read owners manuals, but should start). My aveo is at 131,000 km, well overdue. I was going to try it myself thanks to the excellent posts but I called my local auto shop and they said it would be ~$280 for the belt only and would only do the water pump if it was leaking, very inexpensive in my mind, so I booked it in yesterday. They called at noon and of course the water pump was leaking, cost was now $680. When I picked it up, they realized they overcharged hours and the total price, all in was $611.

So, this morning, with the temps at -17C I drove to work and the car warmed up much faster than usual, I actually got warm in the car on my 20 minute commute. So, question is, is it the timing belt, water pump, new antifreeze that I have to thank for this? I also noticed last night when picking it up that the car didn't squeal when starting it up cold, it usually squeals for 30 seconds on a cold startup.

Couple of other notes with this job, the new belt is good for 160,000km and they told me that the water pump has lifetime warranty from AC Delco. A couple of bonuses that means this car should last me and my teenage boys the life of this car.

Once again, thanks for the help, hope I can pay some of this forward.

[Thymeclock]

Well, here's my update. After finding the forum and clicking around, I found out thanks to you folks, that I should change my timing belt (I don't read owners manuals, but should start). My aveo is at 131,000 km, well overdue. I was going to try it myself thanks to the excellent posts but I called my local auto shop and they said it would be ~$280 for the belt only and would only do the water pump if it was leaking, very inexpensive in my mind, so I booked it in yesterday. They called at noon and of course the water pump was leaking, cost was now $680. When I picked it up, they realized they overcharged hours and the total price, all in was $611.

So, this morning, with the temps at -17C I drove to work and the car warmed up much faster than usual, I actually got warm in the car on my 20 minute commute. So, question is, is it the timing belt, water pump, new antifreeze that I have to thank for this? I also noticed last night when picking it up that the car didn't squeal when starting it up cold, it usually squeals for 30 seconds on a cold startup.

Couple of other notes with this job, the new belt is good for 160,000km and they told me that the water pump has lifetime warranty from AC Delco. A couple of bonuses that means this car should last me and my teenage boys the life of this car.

Once again, thanks for the help, hope I can pay some of this forward.

A bad water pump can cause cooling system problems. I found out the hard way to always have the water pump changed when the timing belt is being replaced. I know it costs more but it's better than having to take that whole area apart again when it goes bad.

[Aveo5_boy]

mine warms slowly. I have to say it must be 15 minutes before i realize i had the heat all the way up..

Help a faster warm up by not turning on the heat or the heater fan until the needle is to range.

That is exactly what I always do.

[richardk]

Well i was going to post the same problem but seams we have the same one. This is my first post here so i have 2 09 aveos now and have had a 04 aveo too. i live just outside of Calgary so it gets real cold here. My aveo has always taken a while to heat up but when it does it blows hot same with my old 04.It gets warm and stays just under the 3rd line on the guage. For the first time last week it went down the second line after i got into the city and drove around a bit. and now this is the norm.It is great on the highway temp wise but in the city with stop and go the temp goes down and so does the heat. I thought it might be a relay so switched them but no help. so now am thinking thermostat not working proper. Is this covered by warranty. The car has 68k and is a 09. Thankx Richard