Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!

[thehunterooo]

http://www.chevrolet.com/cruze/?cmp=OLA_BRAND

[Z34guy]

Yes and? The Cruze has been on their site for a month, if not 2, now. I personally hate the Cruze.

[petrified.rabbit]

Maybe they should rename it lumina. And then we can all hate it with you.

[Z34guy]

Maybe they should rename it lumina. And then we can all hate it with you.

Bite me. I hate it because it's too eco-focused and feeds into the environmental BS. That AND it's not a proper replacement for the performance oriented Cobalt.

[thehunterooo]

look at that engine yo

[thehunterooo]

Maybe they should rename it lumina. And then we can all hate it with you.

i wish rabbit, i hate w bodies soooo much

[petrified.rabbit]

But it's a nice replacement for the common pos cobalt. Which even a lot of cobalt owners I know say the ss is the same pos but with a nice engine.

Plus the 1.4t does more than just make tree huggers happy. It gives you performance and saves you gas money.

[Z34guy]

But it's a nice replacement for the common pos cobalt. Which even a lot of cobalt owners I know say the ss is the same pos but with a nice engine.

Plus the 1.4t does more than just make tree huggers happy. It gives you performance and saves you gas money.

>small engine with a turbo
>performance
>same numbers as the N/A 1.8L
wat.

[petrified.rabbit]

>small engine with a turbo
>performance
>same numbers as the N/A 1.8L
wat.

Your missing a bunch of things like gearing, weight etc. That's what produces the numbers. You like to compare things but you need to know what matters in the comparison as well.

1.4l making 140 hp is 10 hp per .1 liter. How many engines are doing that? I know a lot of turbo direct injection engine doing better. But seriously.

Also with safety requirements etc going into new cars the added weight with every generation makes getting better numbers hard, besides that EPA ratings are a joke. You have people here doing muck better an much less, getting the drive they want out of them.

[MetroMPG]

>same numbers as the N/A 1.8L

Torque:

1.4 L turbo: 148 lb.-ft. of torque (200 Nm) between 1,850 rpm and 4,900 rpm
1.8 L n.a.: 123 lb.-ft. of torque (168 Nm) at 3,800 rpm.

source: http://media.gm.com/content/media/us...uze_powertrain

I know which one I'd pick.