oh, i always get better gas mileage driving east to west than west to east because of the drag of the rotation of the earth too.. driving north and south never seems to have a change in my mpg.
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oh, i always get better gas mileage driving east to west than west to east because of the drag of the rotation of the earth too.. driving north and south never seems to have a change in my mpg.
Seafoam kicked my dog and made fun of me, I'll never use it again.
Boris is allowed to have his opinion, and we can learn a lot about him from the way in which he expresses himself. I accept that he really, truly believes that what he is saying is true. I can't accept or condone his constant, hyper-defensive verbal abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by 06T200
Unfortunately, his claim is all about his belief, and all about his testimony in support of a product. Even if it might be true, it doesn't constitute PROOF of what he is claiming.
Boris' testimony might have been taken more seriously if he hadn't relentlessly engaged in a constant battle of mud-slinging insults, every time anyone questioned his perceived evidence and eventually his veracity. If someone is secure in their belief or their knowledge, they don't become aggressive and go ballistic every time anyone raises doubt about their claims. When someone acts that way it raises other questions as to why they quickly become so emotionally volatile.
This thread is quite spectacular: why is there such defensive and aggressive posturing about a bottle of additive?
Boris, among those of us who frequent this forum, we may not always agree. But we do show mutual respect toward each other and no one here engages in constant insults as a substitute for discussion. Reputation matters, and credibility is derived from reputation. It will be very hard for you to regain your reputation here - especially if you can't offer anything more than continued defensive and insulting remarks.
Rabbit,Quote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
I suspect that the word "eidetic" is not in Boris's limited vocabulary. ;)
If you review the entire thread there are many, in virtually every post he has made. I could copy and paste a list of all his past and ongoing insults, but they are recorded and already seen in virtually every post he has made here. Or we can ignore Boris's insults and eventually ignore him, if need be. Apparently he has nothing else to offer.Quote:
I don't mind the debate here, i have not seen any out of line personal attacks. I leave it at that.
Mutual respect. First off if the know it all demands he knows exactly what took place then he needs to tell me the how's and whys. His level of intelligence, experience and ability to make a valid comment is based on his admited ignorance of what's in the can when its listed right on the can in such detail that the CAS number is even given. Then proceedes to tell me it's water that foams the gas. He is pretty adamant nothing happened, and in his opinion performance in every category should be degraded. Pour 16oz of water in your tank and let me know how much better it runs. Dude sounds like a real intelligent winner to me. Mutual respect huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thymeclock
If if that's mutual respect then he is a rock star around these parts.
He and some others seem to think experience around the subject at hand on a forum is directly corolated to post count. It is only an indicator of the accusers pedigree that a person with 5 posts is but 16 with 150 total on road miles who never even checked oil level. Might work out swell for the cyber guys but that chit is flat out funny. All I did was report an observed increase in mileage after use of a product just shy of 100K miles when the well maintained vehicle has never seen that kind of mileage. If the one variable is not the cause then the know all must explain how the increase was produced and how it could be reproduced by doing absolutely nothing different.
I don't care about anyone else's car. I am telling y'all what happened after a product was introduced to the mix. He obviously listens to the know all old guy at autozone. Them types in my experience are the least knowledgable, easy to pick out and are eager to vomit that crap onto the keyboard at any opportunity they get and hit the send button.
So back to the respect thing. All he did was take a dump on his keyboard and hit submit reply. He literally has no explanation to prove his point on how I get more MPG. That's all he has to do, I'm sure he has told the old timer at the autozone desk by now, let's here what the def in one ear old coot had to say.
Shhh. In saying this you might make Boris madder than ever. :angry4:Quote:
Originally Posted by 06T200
I had three Paczkis today. All were Bavarian crime filled. I spend most my day outside and it's been so cold that my 2700-2800 calories a day diet has resulted in 7 lost pounds the past 2 weeks. How many more calories will I have to eat every day to gain the weight back then maintain it. Add a few more in because it's going to be chilly this weekend. 20-30mph winds and the high temp tomorrow will be 10F at about 6am with dropping temps all day and on Sunday windchills will be -30F at best all day. Keep in mind frost bite sets in at 10 minutes and I will be out most the day and do enough work to make enough heat to keep my skin from freezing.
We still have a lot of winter left and I don't want to be down 30 pounds at the end of it.
Im thinking just drink some seafoam. What you guys think?
Gee that's funny, because when I look on your profile for THIS forum, I click "see all posts" and I see one back in Sept you chimed in about motor oil brand, then your second post in the list - is this one. Troll much?
I got a good chuckle, fanboys and their brands. lol Thanks to the other members for keeping it real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thymeclock
Boris, I don't see how you say Thymeclock was 'disrespectful' even if he was a bit satirical about your expressed opinion, hey it happens to us all. You come on here, with two posts - and you expect every other member to just buy your opinion 100%? Are we just a group of lemmings to you? Seriously? "I tried X product, I will now make my unverifiable claim that I get more MPGSs" - and so what its my second post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boris Bush
I get a ton of information from the other members here and I greatly value them (as well as their opinions) for that information - and I don't know anything about you Boris, but I do know you come off as a paid troll - and I think it's funny as hell. Now can you get over it, and maybe - gee I don't know, post something pertinent about Aveos? Got any cool pics to share, or projects - aside from "product" drops?
lmao. You must not have read his first reply in this thread. I actually re read it and it still makes me laugh when I read it. Perhaps you should go read it again as well. Maybe you need to slow down and actually read what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by 06T200
Like his absolutely dumbfounded knowledge on what it is and what's in it. Then his adament emotional plea nothing took place. Still laughing because how TF could he even have a clue? He don't. Moisture can and will collect in the fuel rail on the Aveo, there is even a TSB for it. If he knows anything about what's in the can, which he openly admits ignorance to, he would see one of the chemicals has a voracious appetite to absorb water. He would also see another is a very effective injector cleaner. He would also see that there is a light lubricating oil in it. If any of you knew how an injector works you would understand a bit of lube does them good, especially with today's gas with most it's lubricating properties removed that gas of yesteryears had.
He says he has no clue what's in it, tells me it's water, then tells me it did not work. Well I am here to tell all the kids, experts and ignoramuses that I had a sudden and reoccurring increase in mileage after using it. I'd gather them water eliminating, cleaning and lubricating chemicals contained in that bottle had something to do with it. If not he put himself Into a position to explain to me what caused it then if he truly believes through his ignorance the seafoam did not.
Ya See, unlike him and his not knowing what's in the can (all he has to do is look at a can), I know what is in the can, what each ingredient does and I fully understand how removing water from the system, cleaning the injectors and lubricaring them can be beneficial to mileage.
Now go read his first reply. It's flipping hilarious.
His contention is dirty injectors and water in fuel rails and unlubed injectors will produce better mileage. Still laughing. What a tool.
I don't think Boris is here to do that. Don't expect him to get over it. He craves personal attention. His form of trolling is that he gets his jollies from being as insulting and provocative as possible. Just read his latest response. It's not only me he has a problem with. He rants that we're all ignorant here, etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by 06T200
He can't tolerate any doubt or criticism of his belief in his favorite product. All he can do is lash out defensively, play the straw man tactic (constantly repeating his false interpretation of this thread) and jeer at everyone who doesn't agree with him. He aspires to be the resident list bully, with nothing to offer but being obnoxious.Quote:
"Well I am here to tell all the kids, experts and ignoramuses that I had a sudden and reoccurring increase in mileage after using it."
Tolerance for what. Tolerate your clear admission you have no clue what's in the can then tell me it's foaming water, then tell me it don't work? You sound like a politician talking down onto his subjects to tolerate, when there is nothing that needs tolerating. Your statements (clearly displayed in your admission of ignorance) contain nothing but your feelings. You would be taken much more serious if you came at it with a solid explanation to the sudden and continued increase in mileage. You concluded (through no experience) that my mileage went up for another reason, yet have to put forth the how's and whys of your claim. Now by going on your explanation of what's in seafoam, I don't have much confidence on you knowing much about anything that's mechanical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thymeclock
As to the other guy who said post about projects and post pictures. It's a point a to point b car. Keep it well maintained and drive it, that's what it's for. It's not a put a wing on it with a fart can kind of car (to me, I have seen some snazzy aveos though).
Now instead of making reasons to not post what you know about foaming water, tell me how I had a sudden continued increase in mileage. That's it. Forget the seafoam, you concluded it did not work so be a man and ask qualifying questions to try to explain your stance after gathering information. To do that you must ask a question. From your first post your fist should have been what's in that can. You can skip that though. Ignore its use. Try to dig deep into how the car is maintained and driven, then make a presentation into your findings.
Thats is how you disagree with someone. You just can't tell someone well I say it ain't so, so it ain't so.
Ok. After sitting silent for a bit I have noticed something.
Thymeclock has a blatantly obvious bias towards additives; SeaFoam specifically, and that is perfectly fine.
Boris has claimed that is has helped his fuel mileage, what it is backed by is irrelevant to an extent. He didn't post in a "spammy" way, nor tried to really sell the product. He stated how it impacted his mileage, and you could have simply ignored the thread if it irked you that strongly in the first place. However, I do see this from both sides. It's time to just stop bickering back and forth.
Regardless of whether someone has 15 posts, or 5k treat it the same to a degree. His head was nearly twisted off by simply posting about SeaFoam actually being a working product.
Everyone including Thymeclock is entitled to their opinion, however just spewing to run something into the ground is uncalled for. There is no reason for a discussion to be this heated, and that goes for everyone that has participated in this thread.
I don't care who started this at this point, what I can't understand is why both of you are SO damn childish and have allowed it to progress to this point.
Thymeclock needs to put more of a restrain on spewing his biases, and Boris needs to let it go. Well, both of you need to just let it go.
And before anyone "Quotes" me like Thymeclock has been doing, don't even bother. I want this argument to come to an end without referring to any previous posts, and NO personal biases!
That goes for everyone!
I guess I'm playing the role of Admin here.
-Andrew
:vtec:
Yes, Andrew, I agree. No one appointed you to the position of administrator, nor can you grant authority to yourself. Your intent might be that of a peacemaker, but it results in an attempt to silence others. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewButler05
I also agree that if any post disturbs anyone, including you, you need to ignore it instead of trying to police it.
What did I say about quoting someone? Not to mention the fact that you just agreed with me about if it disturbs you, to just ignore it.
-Andrew
:vtec:
I think we have fed the troll enough eh guys?
Urban Dictionary: troll
Personally I will ignore and let it move onto the next list..... im sure it has met whatever 'troll quota' needed. and thanks for the chuckle. Once this thread dies, so will the troll. Hint - hint lol
thats the problem online. Anyone can come along and proclaim themself the ultimate authority on anything they decide they feel like being that day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thymeclock
If he were actually playing roll of moderator he would go to thymes first reply and set him straight on the common knowledge the contents of the can is listed on the can and quickly and decisively tell him it is not gas foaming water, as he so expertly let everyone know it is. Then let him know his inexperience with a product is in no way real world comparable to actual use of a product experience.
The sole purpose of my post was to let people know a well maintained Aveo experienced an easily verifiable mileage increase during MY actual use of the car. That's it. Mr. It's water that foams gas in a can is now burdened with proving first it is water, then to prove either my mileage did not go up or supply evidence to everyone how a sudden and continued increase of mileage is being experienced. Forget the seafoam use at that point. If I knew what else other than the supposed failure of seafoam, I would have made no post because I would not be able to provide people here how to get that extra mileage. Thyme just ain't getting it. I am telling everyone what I did and the end result of doing so. Thyme says nope, seafoam did not produce sustained mileage increase. So pony TF up kid. You act as if you know yet continue to insult your own intelligence by still claiming the contents in the bottle do nothing. Maybe you should look them up and discover the contents absorb water and will dissolve varnish and carbon from valves and injectors. It just may have something to do with the mpg jump immediately after it was run for a full tank. That's it thyme. Now tell everyone why the mpg jump, ignore the use of Seafoam.
Everyone else can can just move along, let thyme stew in his own stupidity. He just can't come along and think he will convince me its foaming water and does nothing. I do know a tad about chemistry. So he made himself look like an 8th grade drop out at that point. The rest of his "information" is pure emotion. He don't even offer up a counter opinion let alone experience or a knowledge based theory at the minimum.
so thyme, pony up. Ignore seafoam. Imagine the thread starting out "I am getting 4+mpg on my 100,000 mile aveo after doing nothing to it" and tell us exactly it is what you know how and why it is happening continuously. You have declared you know, yet have not told us oh so smart one.
Who do you think you are to prohibit quoting? The wanna-be administrator, eh? I know quoting other participants disturbs you (and your pal, Boris) but as I said in an earlier post, if you don't like it that's just too damn bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewButler05
Some people find quotes of what they said disturbing because they are actual and factual - unlike fabrication and spin about what was actually stated.
You might notice that I stopped replying to Boris a while ago. But he can't help himself. He still feels threatened.Quote:
Originally Posted by 06T200
Boris will not stop, because he thinks he will dominate and "win" an argument by churning out relentless posts full of insults and mockery. Wanna-be speech cops want to dominate, too...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thymeclock
lmao. If you had an unsharpened pencil and no pencil sharpener and had to write something on paper you probably have no clue you could sharpen the pencil with your pocket knife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thymeclock
This quote is from a very long but interesting and relevant article about additives:
SeaFoam is in the solvents category of additive. That's a fact.Quote:
The Psychological Placebo
You have to wonder, with the volume of evidence accumulating against
oil additives, why so many of us still buy them. That’s the
million-dollar question, and it’s just as difficult to answer as why
so many of us smoke cigarettes, drink hard liquor or engage in any
other number of questionable activities. We know they aren’t good for
us – but we go ahead and do them anyway.
Part of the answer may lie in what some psychiatrists call the
"psychological placebo effect." Simply put, that means that many of
us hunger for that peace of mind that comes with believing we have
purchased the absolute best or most protection we can possibly get.
Even better, there’s that wonderfully smug feeling that comes
with thinking we might be a step ahead of the pack, possessing
knowledge of something just a bit better than everyone else.
Then again, perhaps it comes from an ancient, deep-seated need
we all seem to have to believe in magic. There has never been any
shortage of unscrupulous types ready to cash in on our willingness to
believe that there’s some magical mystery potion we can buy to help
us lose weight, grow hair, attract the opposite sex or make our
engines run longer and better. I doubt that there’s a one of us who
hasn’t fallen for one of these at least once in our lifetimes. We
just want it to be true so bad that we can’t help ourselves.
Testimonial Hype vs. Scientific Analysis
In general, most producers of oil additives rely on personal
"testimonials" to advertise and promote their products. A typical
print advertisement will be one or more letters from a satisfied
customer stating something like, "1 have used Brand X in my engine
for 2 years and 50,000 miles and it runs smoother and gets better
gas mileage than ever before. I love this product and would recommend
it to anyone."
Such evidence is referred to as "anecdotal" and is most commonly
used to pro mote such things as miracle weight loss diets and
astrology.
Whenever I see one of these ads I am reminded of a stunt played
out several years ago by Allen Funt of "Candid Camera" that clearly
demonstrated the side of human nature that makes such advertising
possible.
With cameras in full view, fake "product demonstrators" would
offer people passing through a grocery store the opportunity to
taste-test a "new soft drink." What the victims didn’t know was that
they were being given a horrendous concoction of castor oil, garlic
juice, tabasco sauce and several other foul-tasting ingredients.
After taking a nice, big swallow, as instructed by the demonstrators,
the unwitting victims provided huge laughs for the audience by
desperately trying to conceal their anguish and disgust. Some
literally turned away from the cameras and spit the offending potion
on the floor.
The fascinating part came when about one out of four of the
victims would actu ally turn back to the cameras and proclaim the new
drink was "Great" or "Unique" or, in several cases, "One of the best
things I’ve ever tasted!" Go figure.
The point is, compiling "personal testimonials" for a product is
one of the easiest things an advertising company can do – and one of
the safest, too. You see, as long as they are only expressing some
one else’s personal opinion, they don’t have to prove a thing! It’s
just an opinion, and needs no basis in fact whatsoever.
For those who want to read the entire article, here's the link:
Snake Oil! - Is That Additive Really A Negative? - Ford Trucks
Isopropyl alcohol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaQuote:
Originally Posted by Thymeclock
absorbs water.Quote:
Isopropyl alcohol is miscible in water, alcohol, ether and chloroform. It will dissolve ethyl cellulose, polyvinyl butyral, many oils, alkaloids, gums and natural resins.
Naphtha Uses | eHow
Ot also contains a light lubricaring oil, that's self explaining.Quote:
Specialty naphthas give rise to a number of products used as solvents, like cleaning fluids,
You ou need to prove to people how these ingredients are detrimental to a fuel system. Cleaning varnish and gums while removing water is somehow negative? As you claim.
Pretty sure you have never seen the gum and varnishes today's gas deposits in a fuel system. The ethanol loves absorbing water straight from the air.
Do you contend gas leaves the whole fuel system completely clean and devoid ot water? Lmao again. You got some learning to do.
Provocateurs cannot resist exposing themselves. ;)
Youve done well exposing yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thymeclock
I am am capable of understanding and comprehending the benefits of removing water from gas, and varnish and gums from injectors and fuels systems.
You must explain how this could not help. Then tell us how it's just gas foaming water. You said it, not me.
The light lubricating oil might have been good in the 70s for cars when leaded gas was taken off the market.. In modern cars, with hardened valves, valve seats, etc it does not need a lubrication. The oil can also foul out o2 sensors and be detrimental to catalytic converters over time.
the water absorbing aspect "Sounds" like a good thing, but modern day gas station equipment shuts off at the touch of water going to the pump. While there is still water the leeches into the ground takes, most are measured and drained at particular heights so not to enter the rest of the fuel dispensing system. So it is not needed if you get gas from a good gas station, or even a bad gas station with a high turnover of product. There is more moisture in the air than in the gas.. I would only add a water miscible product to a gas tank if the car has been sitting or will be sitting. (like a lawn mower, or snow blower neither have a cat) but it would be better to run them dry with the additive in it before they sit, and add fresh gas to restart them come time to use them.
The isopropyl alcohol is not as clean as denatured alcohol. Denatured alcohol is a clean burning fuel that will also clean your system, clean burning saves the cat (supposedly not saying you should do it). I have used denatured alcohol to get cars started that have been sitting a long time, to bar moisture issues. isopropyl is more of a cleaning agent, and leaves residue when burned. It will clog the cat over time with multiple use, the residue will also appear as tarnish on the very parts you are trying to clean. It faults itself.
IMHO you old be better off without the seafoam and just run denatured alcohol to clean the system. But your the seafoam salesman, or expert.
Quote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
Nope. You seem to be the expert. Them valves and seats don't need the light lubricaring oil. I'm sure the fuel pump loves it though, and if you know how injectors work then you would know they like some light lubricarion. I never mentioned the valves or seats. You did. I only previously mentioned injectors liking some lube. A well working clean injector will provide better effeciency. If you claim otherwise then you must prove a dirty unlubricted one is better. It's the only positive quality to lube I mentioned. Keep it on topic.
Now You add your half pence like someone else and try to tell everyone I use it every fill up and one more time half way between fill ups. The car has seen a bottle in 100,000 miles. So I don't fall into the you use it too much. You people have an odd agenda around here. Borderline idiocracy. Read the post, comprehend the content and move on. You and your buddy don't need to tell everyone I have used it since day one and I over use it. Read the post, absorb the info. Now adjust your comments to one time use in 100,000 miles and the mileage increase. Also your moisture comment. That's at the pump. The tank vents air into the system, the gas volume is not replaced by a vacuum when it is pumped into the engine. Over 100,000 miles, every tank will have water in it.
so what's your point? Also qualify your statement of denatured is better. If it were I'm sure it would be sold as such. So you sound like a shade tree mechanic or witch craft doctor telling someone dried ground toad testicals snorted will cure cancer.
No one can argue with your logic, its splinter skilled in nature. Your have to be right, so you are right. Its like pouring bleach on my black shirt to get rid of a stain, the stain disappears so my logic is right. EVERYBODY USE BLEACH on their stains too! I only got one stain in the 100 times I wore the shirt so its ok to use bleach. Never mind everyone else notices the bleach ate through the rest of the shirt, and its now white. The stain is gone, so everyone should use bleach because it took the stain away like I said.
My point is your taking a product that was developed 70 years ago, for things manufactured 70 years ago. And remains unchanged and is only relevant in the minds of people who believe it works. There is no before and after proof, anywhere. No one tears apart an engine to show how dirty it is and reassemble it and just to run seafoam, and tear it back down to prove it worked. It only "helps" clean the engine, just like a politician "creates" jobs, vaccines "cause" autism, and Obama "won" the war in iraq.
70 years old, and "helps" From the source:
Sea Foam Makes People's Lives Easier; Story to be Told on Angling Edge TV - Sea Foam Sales Company
I going to go buy seafoam for all my cars right now. Not because it will do anything, but because you said it works.
Me and my friends all jumped off of bridges while we smoked. It was cool.
damn, i missed the party
Quote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
Troubles reading still? I said it worked for me, and I am willing to share the information. Your point is pure conjecture. You need a point before you can get to it. Your avoidance of what is denatured alcohol also tells me you have no clue what it is. I will give you some pointers on what it is. That E10 you fill up with is 10% denatured alcohol. It's nothing more than ethanol with poison added to make it non consumable. It's in the gas already. You clearly don't know the difference between ethanol and isopropyl alcohol. Unless you have a flex fuel engine. I will agree, it cleans great. I have a ranger I drive sometimes that is flex fuel and I ran E85 in it when gas was almost $4.00 a gallon and E85 was just over $2.00 a gallon. Oil stayed clean and clear forever spark plugs had barely any color to them, looked almost new, but that's at 85%. It runs great on E85.
So so let's forget about bleach, it's inane to the topic. Let's forget your ethanol (denatured alcohol) claim, our gas is already at 10% denatured alcohol.
lets forget about everything.
why the mods haven't locked this yet...
Do you really want this forum to resort to an authoritarian way of silencing differences of opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by camopaint0707
Let Boris keep spewing his relentless insults and derisive comments. He came to this forum to perpetuate interminable arguments with anyone who might disagree with him. That IS his entire record of reputation here and it continues, on and on. When a newcomer does nothing but insult and argue with longstanding, knowledgeable people in a forum, his immature behavior is that of a troll.
Since Boris treats everyone as his personal enemy, he has marginalized himself here. I'm ignoring him, but we should be able to continue to point out his bad behavior.
Oh Boris, how you bore us...
if it means shutting you up as well, then yes pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Thymeclock
No one forces you or anyone to read any post.Quote:
Originally Posted by camopaint0707
So as far as shutting people up is concerned, I say: same to you, fella.
You all need to get along, you are right. No one is forced to read anything, I didn't even read much of the thread. Boris on the other hand, has 6 more days to type out his next post. Maybe he will read what was posted, think about it, and learn to accept the difference in opinion, versus just casting away any point of view that does not support his side of the argument. Maybe he will look for facts and examples for proof for the neigh sayers. Maybe he will just go and troll another forum. Did he even own an aveo?
Maybe we were not perfectly clear when we wrote. I know I often do not over explain things that I feel that everyone knows, so to a laymen, the post might seem to be unclear. Do I need examples? Maybe. I assumed most people knew denatured alcohol and ethanol are basically the same. I called it what you buy at lowes, because that was my advice. I assumed too much, now I typed this and feel like I am gong to start an argument with the rest of you. I am not, that is not my intention.
Carry on :)
Yes, we all have the potential to get along. We also have an opportunity to get along and discuss our differences of opinion civilly, without insulting each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
I fully agree that we all need to take time to think before posting. The only way this might happen is to call for a time out, as you have suggested: Think about your words before posting. Is this really what you want to say, on the written record, for everyone to read and remember?
No, Rabbit, you won't start any argument with your words, which contain kindness and wisdom. You are truly trying to instill peace, and I respect and support your efforts towards that goal.
Thanks. :icon_smile:
Apparently this is/was a 'career troll' looks like he was kicked off a Harley forum as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0fw4NSmGJE
Notice the comment left: "Still think your girlie Sportster has the same power to weight ratio as that Street Glide that just went by? What an idiot. It takes a real loser to get kicked off a Harley forum."
Here's another youtube video Boris made. Apparently he is saying one word at it's beginning: "Fags".Quote:
Originally Posted by 06T200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTLn01w64BE
Here are Boris' written comments, attached to his video:
Boris is quick on the trigger to shoot his mouth off, always with invective and insults, just as he has done here. Now we find a documented reputation of his doing this elsewhere on the web.Quote:
These are the idiots I get caught behind on my Harley trying to enjoy a nice day. With dump trucks and cars behind me going the speed limit. These homos choke up the road going 43-47. I hate you billy bad asses.
Does this make him welcome here in our community? Why is he here, other than to create unrest and acrimony among us?
Thanks for the investigative reporting, 06T200. ;)