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About LinkBacksoh, and its 50 miles before the engine kicks on, not 50 miles by itself.
oh, and its 50 miles before the engine kicks on, not 50 miles by itself.
plus you get a rebate of 20,000, making it cost 20k, or whatever they are charging
why do you think nissan makets the leaf at 22k as well lol?
we should see the z-spec aveo soon
shens... cant make a z-spec car with 105hpOriginally Posted by thehunterooo
they would call it more like a-spec..
the new aveo has over 130hp....
The true about the Volt. A not so 'Great' buy!
Specs on the VOLT: Per GM oficial web site.
150 hp electric motor with Lithium-ion batteries.
80 hp 1.4 liter gasoline engine. (required to use ONLY premium gas!)
fuel tank capacity is 9.3G
3781 curb weigh
MSRP $40.280 FEDERAL REBATES will be UP to $7500 so YOU pay $32.780, that is a long way from $20k, Hunter! And the tax break is only good for the first 200k vehicles sold.
As far as the mileage goes, it will drive UP to 50 miles on the batteries charge, after that the gasoline engine kicks in as a generator producing electricity for the electric motor, the gasoline engine will average betewen 30 to 40 miles per galon. so:
9 galon tank x lets say 35 mpg is 315 on a a tank, than we ad the 50 miles of the electric motor and end up with 315+50=to average of 365miles per tank/charge, divide that per 9 galon tank is only 40mpg total, not impressive to me at all, when I have reached 42mpg on my Aveo with a 1.6 liter engine and don't need to recharge the battery every night at extra cost of $1.50 per charge and it takes 10 hours to fully recharge on a 110V system or 4 hours on a 240V system. Sounds like quite a hassle for 40mpg!
Warrantie on the battery pack is 8 years, and after that, I garantie u, to replace them, it will cost a LOT of money, the Prius cost about 10k to replace the batteries, or u can just scrap it and buy a new one! Talk about 'Disposable' car!
One thing I'll give GM, its a nice looking car, comfortable and considering the weigh of 3781lb 40mpg is really good when our Aveo has to weigh about half that to get the 40mpg.
Bottom line is we have the technology to do much better than this, Diesel is clean and cars like the VW tdi average 50+mpg, natural gas is also cheaper, 0% emissions and used in many countries with success, Methanol? I'm not a fan as I grow up around that fuel in Brasil my birth place, why? it is very hard on the engine(eats and rusts everything) but is easy and cheap to produce and low emissions. Methane gas? I'm not familiar with, Hydrogen? won't be here for a good long, long time. I rather have a Spark econobox witch is expected to average betewen 50 and 60mpg than a overpriced, overcomplex car like the Volt. At 40k the hassle of recharging it every night, it is not for me, and I bet I speak for thousands and thousands of americans.
GM sayd a while back 'The VOLT will save GM', that statement was also acompanied by the statement 'It is predited it will take 10 years to sell enough VOLTS for GM to recuperate what it has invested in the car'! LOL...
Ayone here thinks hibrids and electrics sell good? just take a drive to the car dealers and see how many of those they stock compare to convencional engine vehicles, around 1%! So, I think they are not selling like HOT TAMALES! LMAOL.
Hopefully when the Volt sales BOMB (and they will, believe me!), GM will have learn enough from that car to bring us something trully amazing...
Last edited by AveoSS; 11-08-2010 at 11:45 PM.
people spent and still spend a silly amount of money for a prius, why not buy better hybrid like the volt?
there are 20,000 rebates though, it is a smaller program I think
keep in mind how often do you drive more than 50 miles in a day? the volt (getting charged at night) is really just en electric vehicle first, an owner could go for a long time without the engine needing used (and it will probably be seized while still under warranty).
The car was built on the basis that there is a big "demand" for electric cars, but supposedly no one buys them because they cant travel (so you would need an around town car and a second car for highway trips) the volt solves that issue, its an electric car that in you normal life will never need gas but also you can hop in it to drive 1000 miles to go on vacation. You could never do that before in an electric car.
I see ur point. I never look at it that way since I drive more than 50 miles back and fourth to work. Still I preffer a diesel or a car with a small gasoline engine. I hate over complicated/overpriced things when there are better and simpler alternatives. I stand by my view, the VOLT will BOMB, it will sell like the Prius far and apart, I don't know anyone that would pay $25k for a Prius, even less people that would pay $30k+ for a Volt.
90% of people that spend that kind of money is either looking for Performance(Civic R, Camaro,Challenger), work(Dodge Ram, Tundra) a SUV(Denally, Expedition) or luxury(Merc., BMW). Off course, some of those cost more than 25/30k.
Where does the Volt fit? No where.
The sales of the Volt will be weak, like the other hibrids.
Like the Prius and the rest of its ilk, it will just be a statement vehicle for financially secure hypies, tree huggers and Liberals...
And in 8 years or less, when the batteries take a dump and need to be replaced at probably more than the devaluated vehicle, the Volt like so many much more expensive pieces of equipment(like some oil field equipment that the parts cost so much is not worth to fix) will go to the scrap yard...
Last edited by AveoSS; 11-10-2010 at 01:04 AM.
thats the groups of people honda and toyota try to net up (the hippie civic commerical), well most of the time, but GM wants to grab some of those liberal import fans as well
people will buy the leaf so that polar bears will hug them, but have to walk when their car dies in less than 40-45 miles, why not buy the volt?
they will sell though, people bought the prius and insight, and paid a lot more for them
keep in mind too, this is a "luxury" segment car as well, no holding back on features to go green.
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