some idiots hating on aveo

[petrified.rabbit]

its like chevy took a big dump, now this thread is full of luminas.

[Z34guy]

its like chevy took a big dump, now this thread is full of luminas.

lol. Oh yea nevermind that only 1 of the pictures was of a Lumina (the red car with the hood up and the 3400 engine).Most in fact were Chevy Impala's and Monte Carlos, a few Buicks and a few Oldsmobiles, and a few Pontiacs.

[daug1502]

yes but how many of those other makes shared too much in common with the lumina? This is GM after all lol.

[Z34guy]

first generation Lumina shared the engine and transmission with a bunch of other non-W-body GM products. Beyond that, I think they only thing remotely related to another platform were the stereos and pieces of the rear suspension, namely the leafsprings, which seem to have borrowed their similar fully independent design from the Chevrolet Corvette, but this was also true of the other first gen W-body cars. As for the second generation Lumina (1995-2001), the only non-powertrain parts shared were the stereos. The rear suspension was specific to the Monte Carlo and Lumina, while the front was shared with other first generation W-body cars (1988-1996 Pontiac Grand Prix, Buick Regal, and Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme). This has led to the 1995-1999 Monte Carlo and 1995-2001 Lumina W-body chassis being referred to as generation 1.5 of the W-body, as it's not completely generation 1 (with the lack of a rear leafspring), and generation 2 didn't debut til 1997 on the Pontiac Grand Prix, Buick Regal, and Buick Century.

[daug1502]

Uh, so yeah GM uses the same concepts and parts over pretty much all of their vehicles in different combinations.

[Z34guy]

If you noticed, alot of things are platform specific, but yea.

[zaklax13]

do you know what really suck? neons

talking about chevys, they should really introduce the ute and ute SS to the us market. im glad they came up with the cruze, think they should keep going in this new direction, instead of doing what they use to do (releasing the same sh%# every year under diff names

[Z34guy]

do you know what really suck? neons

I guess it depends on how you look at them. Automatic Neons = crap, especially in an accident. Manual Neons are somewhat sporty and fun to drive but just as much a death trap. Also the Neon came out when most of it's competitors were struggling to make 110 HP (exceptions include the Chevrolet Cavalier, Pontiac Sunfire, Oldsmobile Achieva, Buick Skylark, and Pontiac Grand Am, which were available with either a V6 or Oldsmobile's Quad 4), while the Neon came standard with 130 and not long after that a twin cam 150 HP version.
I'm not defending Neons, just saying they have their place.

[zaklax13]

ive only drivin an auto... so my life was misery. such sloppy shifting. was looking at Gillete Stadium auto show pics and there was a decked out one on there, just thought of my bad times

[Z34guy]

ive only drivin an auto... so my life was misery. such sloppy shifting. was looking at Gillete Stadium auto show pics and there was a decked out one on there, just thought of my bad times

It was 1995 and Dodge was still using 3 speed automatics when everyone else had already switched to 4 speeds. The Neon should've been manual only in my opinion.... but then again, I think almost all cars should be manual.