Well finally purchased the new leftover '09 yesterday. The msrp was 15345. Out the door with all taxes, lic., and fees for 5900.18 no trade involved (obviously took advantage of all the incentives and a boatload of GM Card points) And actually sold my '06 Kia for more than I paid for a new leftover '09 - new car and money left in my pockets. Feels like hitting the lotto! =D>