It is has been about 2 years since this question was last asked. So anybody know of a turbo kit for the Aveos yet??
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It is has been about 2 years since this question was last asked. So anybody know of a turbo kit for the Aveos yet??
There isn't none, build one yourself like I did!
lol yeah, there will never be a kit
Could you give me a list of what you used? I would really like to get this for my '06 Aveo.
Regardless of the car you put it on, every basic kit has the same components. I really don't mean to be rude but if you don't know what parts you need to build a basic kit yourself then you shouldnt look at turbocharging your car. It gets way more complicated down the road.
Getting the parts is the easy part, making them work the way they are suposed to and safely is another story.
Anyone can slap a turbo on a car, but then you need fuel management, and with these cars, thats a big problem as the ignition system is unlike 95% of the other cars on the road. You might be able to get away with "cheap" way to increase fuel but in a very very low boost setup (2-3 psi at most) and even then i wouldnt recommend it.
First of all, how deep is your wallet for this? You will be surprised at how quickly and expensive turbocharging gets. Depending how much work you do yourself, it can easily cost upwards of 3000 dollars, professionally assembled setups can run over 5 grand and more.
OUCH!!!!!
maybe not!! Thanks for the info.
You know, since the summer I've thought about doing lots of things to my car and one of them was a turbo, but what's the point? When you really break it down, it's an economy level car. Also, when you get into performance mods on your daily driver you can count on not driving for weeks at a time. Another thing is, a lot of parts on the Aveo are made cheap, so adding a turbo and all this other stuff means you'll be going deeper into more parts, and trying to find stronger non OEM replacements.
Another thing, if you have the money for the Aveo and want something you can tune and make fast and what not, join the dark side, sell the Aveo and grab a Civic. Hate to say it, but any part you need for a Civic you can get pretty easy and pretty cheap and the older Civics have huge lists of aftermarket parts that you can buy, thanks to The Fast & The Furious movie which really brought out the Civics true potential.
Keep the Aveo, get an older Civic like a 2001 isn't bad. Put some money into it, turbo, cold air, fuel management, blow off, performance struts and shocks, body kit, paint it e.t.c get the whole thing going. Then you'll still have a car to drive daily while your toy is being tuned.
you can get a civic and be like everyone else.. or realize the aveo engine is the same as vauxhall, etc. and can easily handle a turbo, even factory turbo versions were available.
that vtec YO, I gotta win some street races first so I afford to mod ma civic brah
+1 Also, i'm not sure about the 1.6, but the 2.0 handles boost extremely well and the power gain is phenominal 250whp on 12 psi is doable, try that on your honda you will need way more boost then that... oh and the ignition remains stock on the 2.0 as well as the entire engine in fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
I'm not interested in modding a car you can buy 1/2 the parts at wal-mart, wheres the challenge in making it something unique? When ppl hear that blow off going off and expect to actually see a civic or a comon car then realize it's an Aveo, their reaction is priceless lol
I agree, it would be fun to make a "sleeper" out of an Aveo. BTW where did you get the 2.0 engine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemasys
from my research, the ecotec engine is the same block, head etc as the vxr 1.6t making close to 200 power from the factory.
the pistons are different for compression ratio of the turbo engine, but i can't find any differences. I was actually upset that the 1.4t in the cruse is not based off our ecotec. but would fit.
the 1.8 in the cruze should be a bored version of our 1.6, however the accessories,manifolds seemed to have been changed, even from the vauxhall counterpart. I am still waiting for specs and such.
The engine comes from the Chevrolet Optra available only in Canada, the same car was produced in the states as the Suzuki Forenza/Reno.
Both are no longer produced so getting a good engine means foraging the scrap yards.
The ecotecs would be alot of work to fit compared to the 2.0 in my car, correct me if i'm wrong Rabbit, but i think the intake is in the front and the exhaust in the back for the ecotecs, which would mean some custom work to fit the exhaust. The mounts would need some custom work as well and the entire electrical system with most likely aftermarket gauges (i doubt the cluster would work correctly).Quote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
Not to mention the work to make the axels fit, suspension mods...
It's alot of money and time once you sit down and think about it, it would cost way less to turbo the 1.6 and get the same power as a stock ecotec, even the turbo models.
If the stock internals of the vrx turbo would fit in the aveo's 1.6, potencial to build a powerfull and easier platform to work with would be much higher then the trouble of swapping the entire ecotec drivetrain and electronics.
i was talking about the ecotec version of the aveo, the manifolds and such are in the same location. Not ecotecs like in the cobalt and cavalier..
Ohh, yes then you are correct.
Maybe swapping in a bottom end from a turbo 1.6, the head should fit thoretically, then you just slap on a turbo and fuel management, that engine could handle probly near 300 hp
i would rather have a honda on 15" steelies
ok what about the aveo 1.4 etec?
This thread is almost 6 months old, there are no direct fit / bolt-on turbo kits for this car, you need to custom make everything.
not a bolt on bro but how strong is the 1.4 block? cz im considering a blower.
Well, its an iron block, you will probably never destroy it, i'd be more concerned about the rings and pistons, the rods are pretty strong too.
I'm gonna push 12 psi in my 2.0L (it's at 8 psi right now) and i know someone with the same engine pushing 13.5 psi on a bone stock motor.
They are strong engines if you are carefull and know what you are doing.
now that youve invested so much time and effort on the aveo... honestly.. is it worth it? or should one just go for the civic?
my motive is a fast street car and the cars in my class are the 1.3 swifts and esteems...
Let me ask you this instead.
How would you feel seeing the face of the guy you just raped thats driving a 38 grand Mazdaspeed 3 or some other type of fast car that costs 5 times as much as a turbocharged Aveo?
There's your answer... its TOTALLY worth it! Not to mention all the praises i've gotten from ppl all over.
The day i went to the dragstrip after a few runs i had people running back to the parking lot they wanted to see wtf i had under the hood, you will not get that type of reaction from a damn Civic. I wish i had brought my camera to take a pic at the dozen ppl wanting a look at the engine bay lol!
Point taken... so ive finaly decided to get mh car a BLOWJOB!! ;) haha!
I'm going for it... really, it seems like the turbo manifold and the ecu are the biggest hurdles... other than that, I'm looking at some kits that have everything else that are universal (wastegate, boost controller, intercooler, etc.) What Nemasys says about the thrill of having a very UNIQUE car is probably worth it... learning about all the stuff along the way is exciting... and time consuming. :p I'm still learning, but will happily share any knowledge I have, at any point. For now, there's a lot of good info on the "pre-turbo modifications" thread (courtesy of long time members-I'm a newb still ; ) Good luck! :)
Yeah being unique is cool and all but the one time I heard a blow off valve and turned expecting civic wrx something what I saw was ....... a PT Cruiser ...... and I didn't go oh thats so cool, I went, now why would you do that. As far as boost my civic has a B18A1 block in it which is good for 15 lbs of boost bone stock as far as internals go. Also the day I watched a video of a civic beating a lambo down the 1/4 mile was the day I decided to keep mine. My Aveo will stay my daily driver and maybe get a couple mods here and there but I don't expect a lot out of it.
The PT Cruiser could be bought with a turbo on it. It was an option to get the 2.4L with a turbo, btw.
is there a chip set up for these cars like they got for the big trucks to adjust preformance.
i am adding a turbo to an 05 aveo, and well i want to know if i am going to have to takeit somewhere so that they can set the fuel/air balance. i am adding the turbo for primaraly increase mileage.
i would feel the same as it did doing that in my geo metro. getting 63 miles to the gallon with a 6 over 2 degree to 7 degree advance. custom build tranny scarey top speed of 112. i also forgot to mention the turbo taken off the suzuki counter part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemasys
Would it be alright not to have a waste gate?
How would one run oil to the turbo? is there an adapter the bolts on to the oil filter port? i know it take the metric filters i had an adaptor on my geo but that was a standard size filter port got that off a 351 cleveland in the junk yard.
thankyou guys after doing days and days of reading all of you have provided the answers i was looking for. so just for the fyi has any of yall turboed the 1.6 and if so how much better mpg did you get from it?
trying to get the aveo to get mpg closer to that on a late 80's early 90's mr2. mom owned 4 older brother had another one they got about 45 mpg average except for the race car. i'm still looking for my metro convertible replacement tho 63 mpg city.
Turboing your engine will definitely not increase mileage.
Are you actually in wheeling? if so:
1992 Geo Metro Convertible
as far as turbos an gas mileage.. its a strange mix, but no one really installs and tunes a turbo for maximum efficiency, they tune for hp.
more air = more gas, but more hp = less pedal, so you going see spots of more efficiency. I know my friend turbo'ed his vr6, with a huge huge turbo. And highway cruising to virginia beach he got 34 mpg.
Just throwing this out there: I recently was on the AEM website looking at performance electronics... Mega-Squirt standalone ECU took some crazy wiring and switching out (was it ignition wires and spark plug cables to Ford?) Apexi Neo, ppl here told me not to use for turbo, due to a lack of ability to retard ignition timing... also, ppl were on Daewootech trying to get the right fuel mapping (or something) and the APEXI site/instructions did not have wiring for Aveos... AEM does not have a standalone directly compatible with (my) Aveo, but a Air fuel controller that uses a laptop and is "direct plug and play" I think using the OBD-II port... not sure on that, but it does say it can retard ignition timing for turbo vehicles. Sooner or later, I am going that route, so does anybody have any experience with that? :)
I think with the aveo, any stand alone system is going to require the same amount of work to install. Megasquirt has a lot of "free" mapping available and sites dedicated to helping each other out. Most people who bad mouth the megasquirt talk about wiring etc because the cheapest version is the board, and you solder the ecu, resistors etc together.
Compatibility of all the systems will require you to run different things though. Nothing is plug and play.
i am new to the whole tuning of cars but i do know parts i am looking to turbocharge my 2009 aveo im looking for a basice turbo no t3 or t 4s i know this is a pricey task and i do plan on keeping this car once all mods r done i am open to ideas on what to do but i plan on doing turbo new head new exhaust system, intercooler, getting a cold air iuntake and ideas please email me at marinekid27@yahoo.com
Ok... I see, rabbit... Looking closer, I noticed they (AEM) have an ecu adapter for some models of cars, which eliminates a lot of the wiring, making it "virtually plug and play"... I am considering this, a lot. AEM says they have support sites, MAPS, and forums for sharing, as well. And to marine kid-finding or fabricating a turbo exhaust manifold is the hard part. After that, most parts are universal, and fuel/ignition management is your next hurdle... I kinda need help with this, at the moment... on a 2008 Aveo, using premium fuel, and pulling cold air (2 factors in detonation, I've read...) could you run a supercharged system with 2 - 2 1/2 psi? And I'm not talking a cheap strap on ebay thing... :p ;) :)
I do not think any car would have an issue running only 2psi with everything being stock.
Cool, cool! Thanks agian, hunter! :) That makes 2 people that have said that... and only one person that's said "you need fuel management on ANY car running ANY amount of boost..." That seemed a bit extreme... some scoop setups generate like .5 - .8 psi... and I didn't think always had fuel management to go with... I've had a scoop setup that was VERY noticeably more powerful going 65+... I wouldn't be surprised if it had a negligable boost... like .1 - .2 psi MAYBE... I could be going 65, and say, an Audi it'd go by going 90 or close to... and I could quickly and easily catch up... the setup I have now isn't as good at 65 mph+, but is better for takeoffs and redlights... ;)
Our ECUs do NOT require any sort of piggy back system if that is what you are asking. I have been told by my tuner multiple times that our ECU is turbo ready and at most may require a re-tune.