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thankyou guys after doing days and days of reading all of you have provided the answers i was looking for. so just for the fyi has any of yall turboed the 1.6 and if so how much better mpg did you get from it?
trying to get the aveo to get mpg closer to that on a late 80's early 90's mr2. mom owned 4 older brother had another one they got about 45 mpg average except for the race car. i'm still looking for my metro convertible replacement tho 63 mpg city.
Turboing your engine will definitely not increase mileage.
Are you actually in wheeling? if so:
1992 Geo Metro Convertible
as far as turbos an gas mileage.. its a strange mix, but no one really installs and tunes a turbo for maximum efficiency, they tune for hp.
more air = more gas, but more hp = less pedal, so you going see spots of more efficiency. I know my friend turbo'ed his vr6, with a huge huge turbo. And highway cruising to virginia beach he got 34 mpg.
Just throwing this out there: I recently was on the AEM website looking at performance electronics... Mega-Squirt standalone ECU took some crazy wiring and switching out (was it ignition wires and spark plug cables to Ford?) Apexi Neo, ppl here told me not to use for turbo, due to a lack of ability to retard ignition timing... also, ppl were on Daewootech trying to get the right fuel mapping (or something) and the APEXI site/instructions did not have wiring for Aveos... AEM does not have a standalone directly compatible with (my) Aveo, but a Air fuel controller that uses a laptop and is "direct plug and play" I think using the OBD-II port... not sure on that, but it does say it can retard ignition timing for turbo vehicles. Sooner or later, I am going that route, so does anybody have any experience with that? :)
I think with the aveo, any stand alone system is going to require the same amount of work to install. Megasquirt has a lot of "free" mapping available and sites dedicated to helping each other out. Most people who bad mouth the megasquirt talk about wiring etc because the cheapest version is the board, and you solder the ecu, resistors etc together.
Compatibility of all the systems will require you to run different things though. Nothing is plug and play.
i am new to the whole tuning of cars but i do know parts i am looking to turbocharge my 2009 aveo im looking for a basice turbo no t3 or t 4s i know this is a pricey task and i do plan on keeping this car once all mods r done i am open to ideas on what to do but i plan on doing turbo new head new exhaust system, intercooler, getting a cold air iuntake and ideas please email me at marinekid27@yahoo.com
Ok... I see, rabbit... Looking closer, I noticed they (AEM) have an ecu adapter for some models of cars, which eliminates a lot of the wiring, making it "virtually plug and play"... I am considering this, a lot. AEM says they have support sites, MAPS, and forums for sharing, as well. And to marine kid-finding or fabricating a turbo exhaust manifold is the hard part. After that, most parts are universal, and fuel/ignition management is your next hurdle... I kinda need help with this, at the moment... on a 2008 Aveo, using premium fuel, and pulling cold air (2 factors in detonation, I've read...) could you run a supercharged system with 2 - 2 1/2 psi? And I'm not talking a cheap strap on ebay thing... :p ;) :)
I do not think any car would have an issue running only 2psi with everything being stock.
Cool, cool! Thanks agian, hunter! :) That makes 2 people that have said that... and only one person that's said "you need fuel management on ANY car running ANY amount of boost..." That seemed a bit extreme... some scoop setups generate like .5 - .8 psi... and I didn't think always had fuel management to go with... I've had a scoop setup that was VERY noticeably more powerful going 65+... I wouldn't be surprised if it had a negligable boost... like .1 - .2 psi MAYBE... I could be going 65, and say, an Audi it'd go by going 90 or close to... and I could quickly and easily catch up... the setup I have now isn't as good at 65 mph+, but is better for takeoffs and redlights... ;)
Our ECUs do NOT require any sort of piggy back system if that is what you are asking. I have been told by my tuner multiple times that our ECU is turbo ready and at most may require a re-tune.