Yeah, I'll need to make some calls to these companies sometime soon.
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Yeah, I'll need to make some calls to these companies sometime soon.
Check out Apexi neo afc. Great piggyback, and compatable with most MAP sensors
this what you mean?
APEXI AFC Neo Safc II Piggy Back Fuel Controller Vtec | eBay
Yup that's the one
I'd suggest the emanage over the S-AFC. It can control ignition timing and you definitely want to be able to control ignition timing when going from N/A to turbo.
That's what I was discussing with zac. I just need to confirm that it will indeed work.
Haltech rep recommends the sprint 500. Any thoughts?
Sprint 500 is standalone I thought...
Cool setup idea-
Get this hood
CAPOT CHEVROLET AVEO GTI - Otros - . AUTOPLAST .
Run a short route intercooler
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Agreed, on a streetable boost level I love the simplicity
oh yeah if ur looking for an s afc2 let me know I gotta blck one, its used but in VGC, it'll be cheaper than anything currently on e bay
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Lol zac where do you keep finding ppl that have turbo their aveos????Quote:
Originally Posted by USAFzac
who has that setup?
Well I'm gonna be delayed slightly on this build. I noticed there is oil in engine and I'm not sure if it has a leak or not so I gotta check that out. But the main reason is that I gotta do some maintenance on my G8 first. Trans cooler, new sump, new converter need to go on that car first.
its from the venezuala aveo club. i check out other countries forums with google translate to find ideas.
Thanks Zac, I am on xceedspeed, Its a ton of tuner guys here in Michigan. There is a guy selling a turbo kit off a d sires Honda I think I might be able to use most of the kit. Im trying to get a few more pictures of the turbo to make sure itll bolt up (or close to it) to my manifold.
So I've decided to keep the stock exhaust. I want to keep the sound dead quiet. thoughts?
Also does the intercooler piping have to be welded together or can I piece together and clamp piping together for it/
Tclamp the silicone connectors on the plumbing but don't forget to spray.the inside lip of the connector with hair spray just before you clamp it acts like a.glue
so yes, I can clamp and not weld
Yep just use t-clamps
Camo please do not keep your stock exhaust, it will be a slap in the face to anyone who has posted advice on going turbo. If u want to save money put a dump right after the second O2 sensor. A small exhaust on a turbo defeats the purpose of going turbo- small diameter delays the spool and limits hp, its like having asthma and trying to run. On a turbo I would go as large as can fit, 2 1/2 is good and a minimum of 2 1/4- but never stock or small
Yeah I might upgrade the piping but I am probably gonna use a stock muffler and resonator.
If you do that you will STILL have a restricted exhaust. You can get flow and keep it quiet too
I want it stock quiet.
The turbo will be quiet with a good cat and muffler on it. Just make sure to use at least a 2 chamber muffler. The n1 style is a straight through design and will be much louder than a style like flowmaster 40 series. Match the flowmaster to a good cat like a magnaflow and when your cruising it will stay quiet and only when you get on it will it be a bit louder but the importance of exhaust flow can't be stressed enough. Not enough exhaust flow and the turbo will have less than marginal performance and your car will run less than stock performance if everything is not built evenly.
You can do it on the cheap. Just grab a muffler from a junk yard that is from a car with a larger engine. Have an exhaust shop fit it to your car. Just make sure it'll fit under there haha.
Maybe I'll use the muffler from my G8
Super Turbo
Those mufflers do good.
If you had highflow cat, 2-2.25" straight pipe, to this muffler, it would sound good. not to loud, not to quiet. possibly a few resonators in the middle somewhere, would keep it quiet while having a deeper tone I believe.
How realistic is it for this build to get off the ground?
I have the oil lines, the pump, the injectors, the turbo. Just hesitant to drop $1000 on a haltech.
a piggy back will suffice. A small turbo and 8 psi or less can be tuned with a greddy or s afc. BUT... Its your car do it ur way..
Have nearly all the parts. Don't have the exhaust manifold built since that will be built during the build. It's this damn tuning that is setting me back. No other part was that expensive.
So just found out my new work place can easily build be a manifold and throw all this together, and I can use the shop, and lift, and tools, etc. So thats good. I'm still on the fence with tuning though if people wanna help. Obviously dyno tune. But I want to keep this car full OBD-2 compliant and emissions compliant as well. I don't want to lose any OEM features in terms of the engine management. Is the haltech sprint 500 the best option?
^ The Haltech Sprint 500 is a good ECU to run... but it is a standalone at the end of the day... which means your car will more than likely have some CEL codes unless you could manage to simulate all the inputs and signals the stock ECU wants to see. Just off the top of my head (since I run the Sprint500 in my Optra), I have codes for injectors and ignition coils, as the stock ECU is totally cut off from those. There are ways to simulate/emulate those signals so the stock ECU thinks its running the injectors/coils but then you will likely run into more codes which take longer for the ECU to recognize such as O2 response related codes.
If you need OBD2 compliance.... what about that Trifecta tuning option that everyone was talking about? Flashed ECUs are the easiest way to maintain OBD2, if the flash has the capabilities to do what you need. Otherwise a piggyback system to intercept and modify signals as they are going in/out of the ECU is the other way... but this can get complicated if no one has done the setup with your particular ECU. Since you are trying to manipulate these signals in just the right manor, a thorough understanding of how both ECUs work, and what they want to see is critical to the setup working properly. You essentially have to trick the stock ECU in such a way that it doesn't know anything has changed lol.
trifecta isn't offered for mine. I've looked extensively. A new ecu/piggyback is really the only option.
still debating on the ecu to run. Question thought, can I install the 3.4 injector or walboro 255 fuel pump without a tune and be ok? Just wanna try to install some of this stuff ahead of time. The only real time consuming thing to do is fabing up the intercooler piping, mounting the intercooler, and then the exhaust manifold.
if I remember correctly, the Sonic and Cruze with the 1.8L engines use the EXACT same PCM Hardware as we have in the 2009+ cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by camopaint0707
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Originally Posted by exist3nce
Thats good advice. One of the reasons I am such a VW fan still is the stock ecus can be modified for almost any mods, and stay/modify the obd2 compliance. The whole piggyback, trick tuning is why I haven't dived into a big mod in my aveo. It just seems like such a compromise that should have been left in the 90s at this point. I've used piggybacks and stand alone in the past, but the emissions I have to pass makes it impossible to get what I want/need.
For the OP. I would definitely try the trifecta route. I would probably start with looking for a "Stock" tune that would be close to your set up. Vauxhall has turboed 1.6 liters, so you find one with the same set of sensors you have and that would be a possible base tune to modify from. Although that again is my VW background talking where that stuff is all available.
I am sure any good tuner could build you a tune from scratch as well.
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Originally Posted by 2010AveoLT
From my research, the 1.8 cruze and the 1.6 aveo (manual transmission) are interchangeable. Like if you buy a used ecu for either car its the "same" part exchange number. That doesn't mean there is no other issues with running one, but looking at them, the plugs match up, the tune looks the same. But I can't speak for immobilizer issues or anything else associated with switching ecus.