e3 sparkplugs

exodus:
"Has anyone ever tried these out? I just came across them the other day. Has a wierd ass electrode on it, that supposedly increases combustion efficiency or something.

Part no for the aveo: 3.48

http://e3sparkplugs.com

Can anyone back up their claims with actual usage? "

brian5475e:
"Well i just installed some. cost me $30. they do perform better. don't have to mash on the pedal as much in city driving. Haven't been on the highway yet."

exodus:
"Nice, nice. I'll have to find some for myself now. Thanks for the legwork "

avoesam:
"where did you get them?"

nemasys:
"Are they better then NGK Iridiums? "

brian5475e:
"Never used the iridiums before. I got them at Advance Auto. They had them in stock. "

xstevex:
"I just bought some too, but they had to order them.

They said they should be in tomorrow.

They do come pre gaped, right? "

brian5475e:
"Yes. you cannot gap them"

I just got some at Kragen. They had them in stock.

i like em. kind of odd lookin, but u wont ever notice any real power gains from changing ur plugs (unless ur old ones were messed up and not sparking lol). u may think u notice an improvement but in reality u dont gain much except maybe a few more miles per tank of gas.

I thought this was an intersting article about the E3 plugs... http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/21 ... ey-on-gas/

well it sort of goes back to what i said, but i wouldnt count it as a credible article.

"While E3 claims a 3-5 percent improvement in mileage, Edsall found his dipped from 20.11/19.98 the previous two years to 19.18 with the E3 plugs. He did all the usual maintenance like oil changes and tire pressures before leaving. Of course the vehicle was a year older and more worn which may have contributed to the dip. But even a fully scientific test with two or more vehicles running side by side in the same conditions (aside from the spark plugs) would probably yield a negligible difference at best."

just my opinion. are we starting another thread about which spark plugs are better?

im actually thinkin of goin back to NGK Iridiums to see if that will get rid of my "knock sensor system error" codes that are being thrown.

i thought it may have been my neo, but i have enriched my fuel settings so much that there is no way it could be leaning out and knockin. at least i think.

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well it sort of goes back to what i said, but i wouldnt count it as a credible article.

"While E3 claims a 3-5 percent improvement in mileage, Edsall found his dipped from 20.11/19.98 the previous two years to 19.18 with the E3 plugs. He did all the usual maintenance like oil changes and tire pressures before leaving. Of course the vehicle was a year older and more worn which may have contributed to the dip. But even a fully scientific test with two or more vehicles running side by side in the same conditions (aside from the spark plugs) would probably yield a negligible difference at best."

just my opinion. are we starting another thread about which spark plugs are better?

im actually thinkin of goin back to NGK Iridiums to see if that will get rid of my "knock sensor system error" codes that are being thrown.

i thought it may have been my neo, but i have enriched my fuel settings so much that there is no way it could be leaning out and knockin. at least i think.

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The only time you're neo is having an effect is when you're out of closed loop, when the ECU relies on IAT and MAP sensor to figure the amount of air coming in. When the ECU uses the oxygen sensors, in closed loop, it will lean out any attempt to enrich the A/F mixture.

no new spark plug threads...if we start a new spark plug thread, I swear I'll start a new 'what wheel size is better' thread..LOL

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no new spark plug threads...if we start a new spark plug thread, I swear I'll start a new 'what wheel size is better' thread..LOL

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#-o better not or ill start shooting :violent3:

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The only time you're neo is having an effect is when you're out of closed loop, when the ECU relies on IAT and MAP sensor to figure the amount of air coming in. When the ECU uses the oxygen sensors, in closed loop, it will lean out any attempt to enrich the A/F mixture.

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yup i know :D it really only works at WOT, or when ur car is in a cold start lol. today i heard a ticking sound comin from my motor, i checked the code, it was a knock sensor code, cleared it, and the motor stopped ticking. so now i am really confused. but im gonna change the plugs tomorrow anyways just to see if it works to my advantage. i still got my stock plugs so i will use them first.

:pottytrain5: i will shoot back!

humm random knocking. I've been thinking maybe you got some "bad gas", I know weird, buy it's happened before. If you put "plus" or "extra" in whatever your gas station calls it, does it still knock?

If it does, probably something is messing timing (which I doubt) or IAT sensor. A too big change of real world value will cause some problems.

i actually have ran the tank down to almost empty twice, filled at 2 different stations, and one tank ran octane booster. actually this tank of gas right now is runnin the octane booster and still i have probs. i will go tinker later today and update. i gotta pull my injectors and reseat them so....

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humm random knocking. I've been thinking maybe you got some "bad gas", I know weird, buy it's happened before. If you put "plus" or "extra" in whatever your gas station calls it, does it still knock?

If it does, probably something is messing timing (which I doubt) or IAT sensor. A too big change of real world value will cause some problems.

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Of course he's got bad gas, we've been eating corned beef and cabbage the last week and a half..LMAO :pottytrain5:

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The only time you're neo is having an effect is when you're out of closed loop, when the ECU relies on IAT and MAP sensor to figure the amount of air coming in. When the ECU uses the oxygen sensors, in closed loop, it will lean out any attempt to enrich the A/F mixture.

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yup i know :D it really only works at WOT, or when ur car is in a cold start lol. today i heard a ticking sound comin from my motor, i checked the code, it was a knock sensor code, cleared it, and the motor stopped ticking. so now i am really confused. but im gonna change the plugs tomorrow anyways just to see if it works to my advantage. i still got my stock plugs so i will use them first.

:pottytrain5: i will shoot back!

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yea something wasn't firing right or like he said you got bad gasoline ( had to use that so ronebabe doesnt make any more bad jokes :mrgreen: ) i think its wierd that it fixed itself tho so its more than likely the latter

well it only fixed itself once i cleared the code with my OBDII scanner.

Hi! I am new to this forum, and new to the 08 Aveo LS! I have been looking to get all the additional power out of my car as possible! Speaking of sparkplugs... has anybody had any experience with Pulstar or Denso plugs? Both claim a slight increase in hp... especially the Pulstar, which boasts like 10x as much energy as a regular sparkplug. I am also considering cold-air intake... Ontarian Frog, you mentioned something about "leaning out" any attempt to enrich the A/F mixture if it is in "closed loop"... What would be necessary to get the max out of a cold air intake? I have looked at MANY engine chips on the market... Best so far looks like SLR Motorsports. Would the chip make any adjustments needed for me? Providing it works properly? Any info on any of these items would be greatly appreciated! =]

I tested pulstar plugs for a while and there was no noticeable difference in power or gas mileage. After about a year one of the plugs failed and I went back to regular plugs.

If you want more power, don't waste your time hunting down expensive spark plugs.

Sweet, Daox! Thanx... That seems to be what a lot of people say; whether or not they notice a power increase, most people who have left'em in for awhile have had problems... Gonna stick with AC Delco or NGK! ;)