in most late model cars, there are only 2-3 "types" of injectors.. so many are "interchangeable".
in most late model cars, there are only 2-3 "types" of injectors.. so many are "interchangeable".
So keeping a reasonable hp goal of say 175-200 flywheel hp, what injector size would be recommended? Im guessing at the minimum something like24-28 pound injectors?...Perhaps I can plug n play with the 2.4 ecotec or lsj injectors. Opinoins r more than welcome...
For 200 hp I'd recommend something around 40 lbs/hr (425 cc/min).
Fuel Injector Calculator from WitchHunter Performance
Good plug, lots of injector info.
I have been looking for the rating on our stock injectors and cant seem to find it... anyone have any idea
Sorry officer... with all of your stickers and strobes I thought you wanted to race
Same problem here based on our stock hp they are probably 19 lbs or so. I would bet the 1.4t injectors would be good enough for a low boost street application, afterall trifecta tuned 1.4Ts hit around 160hp/200+ torque at the wheels. Zzp also has upgrades available for that motor. Im debating the whole issue I am thinking a safely built turbo aveo with stock internals would be around 20hpa more than a 1.8N/A swap with a ton of headaches due to unforseen problems- the main ones being emmissions and clutch rating. Also somone correct me if Im wrong but the trifecta program has changed- the user has the option to de-regulate emissions sensors, thus freeing them from legalities, but to tune out your O2 sensors just leaves them in an open loop which comes up as a "system not ready" under OBD2 emissions scans and in IL that is not a pass, just a no fail distinction and u have to test again at a latter date. My header alone has given me nothing but headaches trying to use O2 spacers to stop the MIL, Ive tried about 4the combinations n have had no success. I believe a tune is in my near future. I kinda ran off topic but those r where my concerns lie regarding a turbo. EMISSIOONS R BS the modern car with no cats burn cleaner than any deisel or pre 90's cars out there.
You can't tune out the o2 sensors. You can make it so the mil/del doesn't show up on any code reader or in the dash. Totally turns it off in the ecu
So what would that show with a OBD2 scan?????The method that Trifecta uses seems to be the best way to deal with late model cars. I read on another forum some guy passed his state emissions but his car said system not ready but no MIL/CEL was on.
Thanks pooh that gives me at least a base number to work with. What are your thoughts on kicking pressure up in the injections to about 60
Sorry officer... with all of your stickers and strobes I thought you wanted to race
Its never a bad thing to assume raising your fuel pressure for turbo but I cant really say till u start ur tune. Some guys tune of exhaust gas temps, I tuned 3 times all of which were dynos I would set a reasonable amount of boost, make a run, and tune off of my air fuel ratios. Id start around 13.5 and richen at the onset of boost. I always felt 12 ish was good till rhe upper rpm n thats where I would dip low to 11s . Thats just a base some engines r more resistant to knock than others. Keep in mind you could piece the hard parts together n have trifecta shoot u a base tune. To have them tune u on a dyno is like $400+ per hour. You could tune urself in a more primitive way using a rising fuel pressure regulator that raises fuel pressure based on boost. We ha e it a returnless fuel system so u would have to route in an additional in line fuel pump n run a return line behind the in line pump.So basically as ur boost increases so does ur fuel pressure based on a given ratio of the regulator(ex 8:1 or 10:1). Its a little crude but Im a lil older so I am more familiar with the stone age days of s afcs n rising fpr s ...