M33 EVL URGENT HELP NEEDED!! turbo/engine/gearbox fix/swap/ideas HELP PLEASE!

[petrified.rabbit]

I don't see the 93 HP because some people got their 1.6 dynoed and didn't reach the HP that gm states

keep in mind dyno hp is different than manufacturer hp. The 93 hp is a designed hp, its an average "guarantee" mean most engine will have at least that. While a dyno is only 100% accurate when reading wheel hp. if it "corrects" for any other number, its a guess, a very educated guess but still a computer equation. Also most dynos are calibrated or measure slightly different.

plus aveo has 2 or 3 different 1.4 liter engines worldwide, probably with different engine management and emissions level requirements etc. so you have to make sure your talking about the same (none of which we have in the US). Xiaogary had the 1.4l 16v, he punched it out to a 1.6 and got cams etc and was making like 150+ hp..


As for the manual swap, its been done not to an aveo, but i've done it, friends have done it. The hardest car ive seen it done to is an american s6. (only available here in auto). mk1-mk3 vws are easy, i've seen a few mk4 vw come out great. It really depends on the cost of parts and how much you like / have into your car. It cost me $300 to do a mk3 jetta that i paid $500 for, it had a bad auto transmission in it. I took about 7 hours. Totally worth it.

Things you would need for the conversion are: trans, axles, starter, flywheel clutch, backing plate, brake and clutch pedal, clutch cylinder, slave cylinder, clutch line, shifter,shifter linkage, surround for shifter, ecu reprogram or manual eschanged.

In your situation i would think the BEST solution is to buy a wreck with the drivetrain you want, and swap it all over at one time.
This will keep you from missing any small parts the would otherwise slow you down having to stop and order them.

Imho a very good, easily managed swap for your car (route i might take) would be a 20v out of a vw. the mk4 jetta uses the same mount idea, not placement exactly, but close enough, and the 1.8t has been swapped into everything so the wiring etc has been figured out. you can pair it up with any 4 cylinder vw tranny, and once its bolted in, you will only need custom axles made, either matched and sleeved, or complete customs both will work. your vw engine choices are very different than mine, so you might find a better swap..

You could also look into swapping in a vauxhall or opel driveline, but we dont have those cars so i can only look on in research, the newer 1.6t vxr engine z16let i think it is, looks like an identical engine bay to the 09 up aveo in the states..

its best to take the amount of you budget and see what you would get for that money, keep in mind youll almost always go 30% over..

[M33EVL]

wow umm.. seriously feel like just scrapin the car now lol!
mechanical works just seems soooo daunting.. urgh!
ahhhh im just going to finish all the exterior and interior work first.. and see how bothered i am about the transmition swap.. i want the auto - manual swap.. i really doo.. but im so scared ima mess something up in the engine bay now.. and thats like the main part LOL if something there aint workin i aint goin nowere.. why couldnt they just make a direct plug and play kit
im regretfully even considering keeping the auto and just boosting the kalos.. but then no matter what i dooooo the dammmmn auto will limit me as i will have issues when tryna shift it wnt shift fast enough due to the boost n increasd power..!! arghh!!!

[daug1502]

If you do end up pulling a swap, just take your time, and look everything over before you start. There are unfortunately a lot of lines and plugs that will need to be disconnected, and possibly moved out of the way. Take your time and look everything over and plan it out. It's actually easier than it sounds, as long as you look everything over and double check your self, you will be fine. The hard part is the fact that you are planning on putting in a different motor and transmission.

[reddemonx92]

If you put in a bigger engine dont you need the wiring harness aswell for that engine?

[petrified.rabbit]

it is not that hard to do the swap, but if you need to address your concerns, you should / can do plug and play, picking an engine the will plug into the main harness, and allow you ease of mounts etc..

but that might limit your selection.

[M33EVL]

it is not that hard to do the swap, but if you need to address your concerns, you should / can do plug and play, picking an engine the will plug into the main harness, and allow you ease of mounts etc..

but that might limit your selection.

i have no worry about a limit of engines to choose from SO LONG as they are more powerful and preferably have a wider selection of after market parts.. and something with a stock turbo on it as well..
but were would i get a list of engines that are direct plug and play..?
and would this also mean the same for the gear box? and also possibly mean i wont need to change my drive shafts or axels or anything? or am i reached the dreaming relm?

[petrified.rabbit]

there wont be a plug and play turbo engine, they use different sensor locations as far as i can imagine, but i believe a sunbird gt? from the early 90s has a compatible block.. this is where you should just start to research daewootech.

most of the gm family 1 / daewoo engines will work within the era. The daewoo 1.8 and 2.0 is a bolt on, if you include all the accessories (turn key purchase, you just keep the engine harness (to the plug on the fender well. And then plug in the computer as well). Its rated ate like 140-150 hp i believe somewhere in there.

The 2.2 can work as well but i believe it is slightly more involved.

you will have to change axles no matter what if you want a manual trans, and i would recommend taking a transthat matches the engine as well.

you have a few more options though in the vauxhall cars, i am not sure about the interchangeability as we dont have them, but the ecotec 1.6 is a vauxhall design, the wiring layout is similar etc. So you should be able to match that up to your car as well..

[M33EVL]

there wont be a plug and play turbo engine, they use different sensor locations as far as i can imagine, but i believe a sunbird gt? from the early 90s has a compatible block.. this is where you should just start to research daewootech.

most of the gm family 1 / daewoo engines will work within the era. The daewoo 1.8 and 2.0 is a bolt on, if you include all the accessories (turn key purchase, you just keep the engine harness (to the plug on the fender well. And then plug in the computer as well). Its rated ate like 140-150 hp i believe somewhere in there.

The 2.2 can work as well but i believe it is slightly more involved.

you will have to change axles no matter what if you want a manual trans, and i would recommend taking a transthat matches the engine as well.

you have a few more options though in the vauxhall cars, i am not sure about the interchangeability as we dont have them, but the ecotec 1.6 is a vauxhall design, the wiring layout is similar etc. So you should be able to match that up to your car as well..

petrified.rabbit you are a legend.. i dont even think thats enough to describe you right now in my eyes..
THERE ISS HOOOPPEE!!! thank God for that!
if thats the case as ive got access to literally EVERYTHING vauxhall out here in the UK, im going to try daewoo tech with a new post and also ask around all the vauxhall engine specialists if they know of any direct matches. i think ive seen a list of GM family 1 engines somewere on daewoo tech when i was searching around il dig that up and have a look at what looks decent as well..

seriously petrified.rabbit i couldn't ever thank you enough for your help i was seriously on the verge of dumping my car and leaving it..
so thanks

[M33EVL]

hi guys i know this is an old one, but im just getting all my engine info and going to evaluate the choices and decide within the next month what im going to do as the cars body work is almost there..
i appologise in advanced for the stupidity and noobyness of my questions..

i just wanted to ask. say i brought a wrecked manual kalos, and then swapped everything over.
if in theory i went for an engine swap like the z16let or c20let or something along those lines.. would i still need to change my axels and drive shafts even though my car in theory would now be manual?

[petrified.rabbit]

axles are different yes..

stick this in there:

VAUXHALL CORSA VXR ENGINE | eBay UK

he wont ship.