Petition for a manifold??

[thehunterooo]

well and plus i dont have a place to work on my car anymore and or any tools lol, all i got is a flathead screwdriver right now

[atcovan]

I would love a header for my 09', but we can't really run them here. Your car will never warm up at -60*F. It's bad enough in the winter I have to cover my whole radiator with cardboard.

I don't understand why a header has anything to do with engine warm-up. I can see the cat heating slower, because the exhaust isn't baking in the cast iron. Just some random thoughts.

[atcovan]

well and plus i dont have a place to work on my car anymore and or any tools lol, all i got is a flathead screwdriver right now

A car enthusiast without a place to create is just wrong.

[thehunterooo]

yes i cry myself to sleep everynight, well not really. but still it sucks

[xiaogary]

I just went to the showroom to take a look at the new 09 1.6 Aveo and 09 1.6 Cruze. The header I am selling fit both. Its the same engine block. Only the 09 1.8 cruze has a different engine block and the header doesnt fit.

Yes the heat shield can be attached, but why do you need that?

[thehunterooo]

lol wolf gets too cold :0

so i was right for a change about the headers lol

[petrified.rabbit]

its not the same engine here in the us. i will take pictures tomorrow.

[thehunterooo]

damn i thoght i was right

[Wolfman AK907]

I don't understand why a header has anything to do with engine warm-up. I can see the cat heating slower, because the exhaust isn't baking in the cast iron. Just some random thoughts.

The stock exhaust manifold is restrictive. It holds heat and exhaust flow where as a header is thinner-walled and very free-flowing. It also lets off a lot of heat right at the downpipe. I guess with a lot of header wrap it could be cured, but with the outside temp. vs. the high heat of the exhaust you would most likely start to see cracks in the head flange and the connecting flange after the first winter up here. I know from experience. My s10 has headers with lots of wrap on them. They haven't cracked yet and I put a 195*F thermostat in it to help heat up.

[Corey]

So how much does it actually cost for the cat-less headers?