hello, :?:
Can someone recommend the best piggy back preformance chip for increasing HP on a
2005 Aveo 1.6L ? Have seen chips for as low as $5 US on ebay.
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hello, :?:
Can someone recommend the best piggy back preformance chip for increasing HP on a
2005 Aveo 1.6L ? Have seen chips for as low as $5 US on ebay.
dont buy those cheap chips from ebay, youll screw all kinds of things up.
there is now real chip for the aveo, but you can do like an apexi neo (i think it is called) to tweek your fueling but you will want a wideband o2 and dyno to get hp out of it.
Unless you want trouble I'm strongly against it... Whether 5$ or 100$ there is no such thing as a simple add-on for more power.
Guy at local preformance shop said he would install a piggy back chip and do the tunning for around 1,200 bucks. will just have to wait until i can afford a turbo kit upgrade
many thanks.
any specfics on the tune? DO you have an auto or manual?Quote:
Originally Posted by speedricer
it's a manuel
that preformance shop charges $100 per hr (they do dyno testing as well), to much for me tho.
100 buks and hour to tune your car is a good price, specially if that includes dyno time.
Some places charge up to 150 dollars to simply put your car on the dyno, then they charge a flat hourly rate to tune it.
Getting your car professionnaly tuned is very expensive no matter what route you take.
i wonder though how much power could be made, like a money/hp ratio so to speak
did he make any comments on how much extra power you could see?
all those chips do is trick the intake sensor to make the computer dump fuel.. sometimes the o2 sensor will adjust somewhat and lean out the mixture back to proper ratios.. other times it will dump fuel "unnoticed" by the computer management.
fuel has a direct relationship to the power so sure you will feel some more power, until your cat clogs from the unburned fuel and the exhaust pressure built up in the manifold bends valves.. then the continued fuel flow hydrolocks the engine.
he said it would give it about 12 more hp.
don't know what chip he uses. will get more details on chip and tuning process.
Peace
So what's the best way to get more performance out of a stock 1.6 L Aveo engine, with out spending a fortune ? (not using a piggy back chip of course).
Headers plus full exhaust, cams, lightweight flywheels, cold air intakes, lightweight pulleys...
Then if you wanna spend more theres forced induction, nitrous..
There are tons of stuff you can do to add power, and there are much better upgrades that are better "bang for your buck" then simply putting a chip on a 100% stock motor.
Start with the basics, leave the tuning for the end. You can do full exhaust and intake without even touching the tuning and it will give you more power and cost less money.
thanks
So... cams? Is this something I can look into doing even if planning to go turbo? Everything else is done/getting done... ;)
you can run cams with a turbo, well you need cams to have the engine run.. but racing long duration high lift cams can be run with a turbo too...
cams determine how much air and fuel will get into the cylinder, so essentially cams even when turboed, will allow more air in.. but you need to have the management and everything to get the fuel to match up to all the extra air the cams and/or turbo allow. so it is still tuning necessary.
basic answer though, is cams and boost are not needed together in most basic installs. the effect of the cams will be the same as turning up the boost. So you need to build them to suit each other, and have a ignition and fuel system designed for that much air. if that makes sense.
Yeah, that all makes perfect sense! :) I'm learning more about each part I plan to put in (Thanks! ; ) From this, I gather cams would be something to upgrade after a turbo is setup? What Daox said about staying away from AFC controllers, due to ignition timing and other issues... would a standalone ECU tuner be able to regulate the ignition and fuel system issues you speak of? Or are you talking about mechanical upgrades? For the Aveo, specifically...
pardon my ignorance - but when someone says "do full exhaust for more power" exactly what does that mean??
it means replace your exhaust front to back with a better flowing system.
Who has an actual header for sale for our car? I have one of the two resonators removed and exhaust done from where the resonator was removed, and have noticed a huge difference in flow. But, a header would be an even greater improvement
Is there any chip that actually works for improving economy? Or is it best just to stay away from chips altogether?