Short Shifter Interest?

[petrified.rabbit]

i found this:

http://www.aveoforum.com/forum/showt...t-Shifter-Swap


i currently don't have any ready, the last one i sold was to seregy (spelling?) and he sent on back, but that one was sitting on my shelf for 8 months.. i'm going to write the cad file file and get them cut with the next set of endlink brackets, i just sold the last one of the first batch.

[Avezoh]

Could you provide a few before/after photos or link to already existing ones along with a short description of the new parts and the overall functional change? Also, found this- but don't as yet know if it would fit the Aveo or even what year/model/drivetrain it fits in the Swift line:http://www.suzukird.com/product_info.php?products_id=19

Steve

[petrified.rabbit]

read through the thread link i posted. its all there.

[AveoJoe]

lol shorter then what the aveo comes with?

[petrified.rabbit]

I'm thinking you guys don't understand what a true short shifter is.

A shorter handle does not make shifting faster. It also increases your work on the fulcrum. Even if you cut the stock shift lever in half it would have more than 3 1/2" gear to gear swing.

[Avezoh]

I'm thinking you guys don't understand what a true short shifter is.

A shorter handle does not make shifting faster. It also increases your work on the fulcrum. Even if you cut the stock shift lever in half it would have more than 3 1/2" gear to gear swing.

Don't include me, please, in your sweeping statement about level of understanding of what a short shift kit, etc. concept is. I was asking for a breakdown of what you are offering so I can consider price, benefit, quality to other references here and elsewhere.

I'm quite familiar with what I'm dealing with in the stock scenario in the short time I've owned my Aveo, hence the interest in an alternative. I also explained in the battery problem thread I own a muscle car or two. Further, I've have run, modified, and owned them over many years and those cars, with Hurst shifter kits, were the original, "short shifter" test grounds.

Having said all that, a nice, quality looking alternative shifter handle and knob would complete an attractive ensemble of shorter/tighter ( with quality metal pivots ) linkage.

Steve

[ontarian_frog]

You will not find a shorter handle shifter readily unless you make it yourself. The short shifter in this thread is a pivot piece that shortens the actual throw of the stock arm and knob.

[Avezoh]

You will not find a shorter handle shifter readily unless you make it yourself. The short shifter in this thread is a pivot piece that shortens the actual throw of the stock arm and knob.

Understand that. Found all the other details needed to make a decision, thanks Rabbit.

For those that might be confused about shifters, shifting, and changing shift throws or the length the shift lever travels between engaging gears some commonly agreed upon terminology would help.
1 )Shift lever, sometimes called the shift rod ( though in older shifters the rods are part of the linkage )- the stalk that sticks up through the floor that the shift knob, or shift ball, or shift handle threads onto
2) Shifter- can be the entire assembly, as in a Hurst Shifter or simply the lever that sticks up through the floor. Is a regional, generational thing
3) Shift/shifting- the act of moving the shifter into the next gear or the transition between gears
4)short shift- can be in verb form, as in-"to short shift"- meaning shifting up to the next gear at low rpm's. Or- as part of a description- "Short shift kit"- meaning shortening up the distance the lever "stirs" between engaging gears- as described in 3)
5) finally- "short shifter"- literally the lever or stalk that pokes up through the floor- being physically short or shorter than a stock one

So, in this scenario - the "short shift kit" is comprised of physically modifying the linkage between the shift lever and the transmission's internal gear selector arms or forks- depending on transmission internal design. In short, ha-no pun intended- the linkage has been lengthened. This means the distance the lever has to travel to snick into gear has been reduced because the "reach" of the pivot point between the bottom of the lever that pokes up through the floor has been extended by the longer linkage arms so the lever moves less to "reach" the next gear.

Hope this helps.

Steve

[pltice]

so how do i sign up to get one? I really like the idea of not hitting the cup holder anymore.

[petrified.rabbit]

I'll write up a cad file and get a few more longer arms when I order the coilover brackets.

I will refigure the price once I know what the costs will be.

Just as before it will be on exchange with a core charge.