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      Torn air intake hose on LPG-modified car. Replace or ignore?

      When I bought my Aveo I noticed the air intake hose (if that's what it's called; the big rubber tube coming from the air filter box, in the top left of the engine compartment) was torn. I pointed it out to the dealer and he said that I could just tape it up with duct tape, but it didn't really matter because the car was modified to run on LPG and the LPG modification has its own air intake.

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      Now, obviously the guy wanted to sell me the car so he could've told me anything I wanted to hear, or it could have been the truth - I have no way of knowing. All I know is that I'm not a fan of the duct tape method: that tube is right over the drive belt and if the tape came off due to heat or whatever, it'd get stuck in that belt, which is something I definitely don't want. Also, the car may run on LPG but it starts on regular gasoline (plus I might run out of LPG without an LPG station nearby, which would mean I'd have to continue on gasoline), so it'd be necessary then.

      Now, I noticed that new tubes are about €30 on ebay, which isn't super expensive but not exactly pocket change either. Now I'm debating wether or not to replace it.

      What do you guys think? Repair ASAP, or is it indeed not necessary due to the LPG system using a different intake?
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      There is no separate air intake for LPG. Get it replaced ASAP.
      I leased Pontiac Wave from September 2006 to August 2011.

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      Right, that's what I feared. I'm looking at replacement hoses, but I'm running into a problem. Here's mine:


      There's a.. thing connected on the left near the air filter box, and a second.. thing on top of the hose, at the other end. Now, all the replacement hoses I can find look like this:


      The connector near the air filter box is there, but there isn't one at the top of the hose on the other end, like with mine. Instead, there's an extra thing near the first connector, with some sort of vertical tube sticking out of it. Can I somehow connect the hose that comes from my engine on that? Are these things even compatible?
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      wHAT IS THE ELECTRICAL PLUG ON THE SIDE OF THE HOSE?

      Quote Originally Posted by Bas View Post
      Right, that's what I feared. I'm looking at replacement hoses, but I'm running into a problem. Here's mine:


      There's a.. thing connected on the left near the air filter box, and a second.. thing on top of the hose, at the other end. Now, all the replacement hoses I can find look like this:


      The connector near the air filter box is there, but there isn't one at the top of the hose on the other end, like with mine. Instead, there's an extra thing near the first connector, with some sort of vertical tube sticking out of it. Can I somehow connect the hose that comes from my engine on that? Are these things even compatible?
      **** Since you posted a picture of the item I was going to ask about, figured I would ask my question here. I just washed my Aveo 2006, and was cleaning up the engine a bit, and I noticed that the hose in the picture here, has a cracking around the electrical plug that is on the hose, right next to the strut tower. What is this part? It isnt falling out, but the rubber around it is cracking, and it might fall out real soon. What is this part? Would I be saving a lot of cash by putting black electrical tape around it, to hold it in? Or is this plug a VERY important part that will make the car run like sh-t if it isnt in perfectly, so I need to buy a new hose??

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      Quote Originally Posted by FlaAveo5 View Post
      I just washed my Aveo 2006, and was cleaning up the engine a bit, and I noticed that the hose in the picture here, has a cracking around the electrical plug that is on the hose, right next to the strut tower. What is this part?
      The electrical plug is the intake air temperature sensor. Your ECU uses the temperature of the incoming air as part of it's calculation for the correct air/fuel ratio.

      I did have a rip in my ribbed section of my intake hose as well. I cut the ribbed section out with a knife and clamped in a short piece of exhaust pipe I had lying around. Free fix.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MTNG View Post
      The electrical plug is the intake air temperature sensor. Your ECU uses the temperature of the incoming air as part of it's calculation for the correct air/fuel ratio.

      I did have a rip in my ribbed section of my intake hose as well. I cut the ribbed section out with a knife and clamped in a short piece of exhaust pipe I had lying around. Free fix.
      I have one of those for sale, if you like $20 includes shipping

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      Yes. It's compatible. That's the correct one to buy. That's the PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) line. Just pull the hose from the plastic elbow on your cracked intake and plug it onto the new elbow on the new intake. The ONLY thing that really matters it that the PCV hose is plugged into the intake system between the Air Filter and the Throttle blade. On all vehicles. The crankcase sucks in fresh air through that hose. Because ALL Aveo Intake's crack, They started putting the fitting above the flex ripples so after it cracks, the crankcase will still sucks in filtered air.

      Long story short. That's an upgrade compared a new GM Year Correct Intake hose. Change your oil also.

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      I took my hose completely off and wrapped it with duck tape. Shops around here trying to sell a new one for $60. Yeah right! I'd get CAI for cheaper!

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      Oh yeah. I forgot to mention that because of the torn Intake Hose and your engine running on some unfiltered air you should put some time into cleaning your Throttle Body. Also Engine Oil Flush, Synthetic oil and a 4 cyl can of Restorer. It's all about taking care of your car before you must fix your car. Aveo's have Throttle Body and Idle Air Control (IAC) issues more than other cars because lots of them go many many miles with cracked intakes/unfiltered air. I met my wife fixing her 04' 115K only owner and her's was torn almost all the way around. It happens to all of them. Bad design. There are many threads and YouTubes about how to clean Throttle Bodies. Good Luck and what is LPG?
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      Thanks for the information, Lola!

      Yeah, those hoses are expensive. I found one on ebay for $30, still not cheap but a lot better than most of them out there.

      I was planning an oil change anyway, so I suppose I'll put that off until after the hose comes in and just plan a weekend of cleaning the throttle body and flushing the engine. I hope it's reasonably doable for a beginner.

      LPG is liquefied petroleum gas or propane/butane. It's an alternative (and much cheaper than gasoline) fuel available here.

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