Is a turbo kit or even just a turbo manifold available from anywhere for any Aveo yet ?
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Is a turbo kit or even just a turbo manifold available from anywhere for any Aveo yet ?
direct bolt on, no.
but someone makes a flange, and then a "universal" kit could be made to work..
We have 4-2-1 manifolds for 1.5 and 1.6 Lanos,Aveo engine.
We are in Ukraine , but we can send to you wordlwide. Approx 170...200 USD with all fees. Depend from country.
http://www.pitstop.zp.ua/Image/manifold-lanos.jpg
That's not a turbo manifold.
???
http://www.daewootech.com/forum/viewtop ... =2&t=11433
Scroll down and read
the flange on the manifold looks wrong (in the link) it doesnt have the tab on the drivers side?
I haven't been able to look close enough to tell.
I was hoping someone would chime in and tell me whether this was a go or not.
Thank you
Jason
it looks like it has the flange on the lower header on the picture a few posts up, where as we have the flange on the upper header..
not a huge ordeal, though, the manifold is the easier part. its getting the "tuned" engine to run properly enough to not have issues that is hard, with this car i dont see how to do it without reprogramming, which is not available, using a piggy back, which i personally dont want to do, or running standalone, which would be emissions unfriendly.
i would love a flash program with a turbo kit like other manufacturers cab do.
Absolutely essential IMO I'm actualy getting a bit cold on Turbo-ing haveing read posts on daewootech regarding piston failures at under 40000miles , however the guy was running about 10psi boost (0.7 bar)which would have to be near suicide on any 10.1 compression engine , even with forged pistons which the Daewoo AVEO / BARINA/ WAVE / KALOS certainly dosen't have , stock anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
IMO for anyone wanting big power an engine build (or swap) would be essential with lower compression forged pistons , maybe steel rods the list goes on and the $ out get bigger.
I also think that a low 3-5psi max turbo set up is do-able , forget big power in the stocky engine unless your idea of good is to spend more time on rebuilding than actualy on the road a nice low bang set up would still give more than enough to get you in plenty of trouble anyway.
It's going to take an exhaust and tuning shop to sort it out , it aint rocket science ,and it shouldn't be hard for experianced people ,
The only real question is how good would they be at selling and marketing the product--if they're no good at that--and most of them aint--the rest is academic.
Yes. For atmo engine 1.5 and 1.6.....Quote:
Originally Posted by 07_aveo
We can send worldwide, no problems...
I am in the process of making a 4-1 turbo manifold custom made for aveo/lanos/nubira 1.4-1.6. If anyone is interested. You can look for me.
Its currently made with a small T3 turbo flange and 38mm standard wastegate flange. It also came with a cover and screws/nuts if you wish to seal the wastegate flange. It also came with the EGR removal function, meaning the flange will block off the EGR gases from going to the EGR valve.
Now its in the final stage of testing whether the manifold with a standard T3 .42/.48 turbo will hit the engine block/radiator fan. I am not too concern with it hitting oil filter since most people will install a oil filter relocation kit with the installation of a oil cooler.
Some pictures. Came with 38mm wastegate flange (and cover + screws not shown in pictures) if not using external wastegate. This is a T3 .42/.48 turbo commonly available in ebay which is meant for EVO III.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/844...manifold01.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9...manifold02.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/950...manifold03.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8...manifold04.jpg
Plenty of space for turbo as can see. Currently with 4-2-1 headers.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7...21header01.jpg
Where can I get that manifold or turbo kit, I'm trying to kick a little the negine of my Aveo 07' 1.6L.
I was looking in ebay colud not find any exaust manifold for the Aveo.
Let me know
Thanks
xaiogory sells a 4-1 header on ebay, but that is it, turbo kit will never happen, I doubt any other osrt of header either, xaiogory said he was almost out of them so I would message him as soon as possible, once those are gone then they might be gone for good
I bought the 4-1 headers off him on ebay last summer and they are great, I have about 11000miles on them and no problems other than the paint is gone on the lower flange, but they are so thick of material that it doesn't matter. Truly high quality craftsman ship. I had the car on a dyno in sept of 2010 and I was sitting at 117 bhp, only an intake, headers and 2 inch exhaust all the way back. The headers kill your torque but the top end is amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by memito
I just remembered your car was manual. I was hitting 98HP on 2nd gear in my automatic. I'm really leaning torward a tranny swap so i can get better reads.
98hp is right at the wheel, he meant 117 engine wise (less at the wheel), or I think he did?
Having a car thats stick gives better reads though since the gear ratio is closer to 1 then the automatic gears. Hunter aren't you doing a swap too?
dont have the time, just a lot of things to do, I can not even install my header
I was considering a turbo on the aveo as my dad will be getting a new car in a few months (probably a chev cruize) and the aveo will be a spare car.
Over here we have the opel corsa b and corsa c now I know one of them share a manifold with the aveo 1.5 8valve that we have over here. I must just confirm what one.
Cant one have a turbo flange welded to the standard manifold? It has been done on other cars over here.
welding the flange to the manifold is easy.. cheap, and it works for the most part.
For the most part? is there more info with that?
well depending on how you want to position the turbo, the size of the turbo, and where the manifold will allow you to put it (nemasys is using a sump on his as the turbo sits very low in relation to the engine). you might have to deal with other issues. like the cost of his oil pump solution is about the price of a "real" modified manifold.
as rabbit said, a welded adapter will work but you will need somekind of system to help return the oil, it sits the turbo way too low no matter what you do
i went with one of the most expensive oil scavenge pumps at $229, there are way cheaper ones then that, but i decided to have a good pump, you dont want a cheap pump to fail while driving that could spell disaster for the turbo's seals
even with the price of the pump, its still about 1/2 the price of getting a one off custom turbo manifold made.
Yeah, this seems to be a big issue in going turbo... I have found most other parts, but I just cleaned several malicious software programs I picked up as a result of searching for anything relating to turbo exhaust manifolds... for a "real" modified manifold, like rabbit mentioned, are you talking about modifying the existing manifold, or one from another car? Any direction here would be much appreciated! :)
what is your price range?
simply put, buy a exhaust manifold gasket, turned into a cad drawing, and get that cut. Then buy a matching exhaust flange for the turbo.. take those to a fabricator along with the car, and after @ $500 + (depending on who you go to, costs, how much you do on your own etc) you will have a "proper" manifold.
Ok, I re-read all the stuff about pumps just now... been busy! :) My price range is flexible, seeing as how the timeframe for the project is, as well! ;) Ease is important... not work-wise, but I don't know of a fabricator right off, & I don't have a CAD program (Adobe Illustrator :p ). I was planning to go to the muffler/exhaust place (where I'll do the CAT-back work-used'em before) and just ASK how much it'd be. and if they could convert a factory manifold into a turbo... there's a race shop nearby that I hope can install the whole turbo setup, pump included (I may research doing some or all of it myself this winter) If I go that route, couldn't the higher flow headers that are for sale for our car be modified, for even better results? Then I could buy it when I have the cash... have it modified when I have $$$, and same for install. If I could find someone who had the specs already for a "proper" manifold, or had one to sell, I'd be willing to spend closer to a grand on this part (wouldn't have to buy a pump then, I take it. ; )
i'm not sure you are talking about the manifold and pump (the turbo unit itself) as interchangeable? they are two separate parts..
imho. i would buy a cheap manifold (cast or tube) like these :
HONDA CIVIC T3 CAST IRON TURBO MANIFOLD D D15 D16 CRX | eBay
Honda Civic CRX Del Sol D15B D16Y Turbo Manifold | eBay
HONDA CIVIC CRX CAST IRON TURBO MANIFOLD D D15 D16 T3 | eBay
you would need to check widths, and flange configuration,etc before buying, which is as simple as matching up gaskets.. but then you either make a new flange (if going tube) or cut the flange on the stock manifold (for cast) and "mend" them together with a good welder. its relatively archaic, but someone here a long time ago fitted a d16 header to his aveo in the same fashion. So the d16 must be close enough to match up the tubes.. And your talking a <$100 turbo manifold, and a stock manifold (probably less that $50) and then $200-400 in fabrication (or less). So you can have a "proper" manifold for as little as $350.
Nice! Ok, I do understand they are separate parts; from what I understand, if I have a proper manifold made, I won't need a pump solution. Mainly because of this part you said here, rabbit
"like the cost of his oil pump solution is about the price of a "real" modified manifold."
Is that correct?
So I need to get the gasket for a Chevy 08 Aveo... I've been to the muffler shop, where the guy seemed optimistic about being able to do the custom exhaust manifold there. So with the gasket, an extra Aveo manifold (for cast iron) and a turbo manifold similar to one of these (measurements as close as possible to existing holes)... that's about all I'd need to proceed with having a proper turbo manifold, right? Then I'd just need to piece together all the standard/universal parts for a turbo system, right? A couple of the other components I've looked at on ebay say they are universal...
sounds like your about on track.
YaY!!! :D I feel like I'm close to clearing one of the big hurdles... Thanks, rabbit! :)