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11-10-2007, 12:03 PM
Aveo_Tuner

WiDe BoDy

im saving the money for the versus wide body what is every ones opinion on this kit???
11-10-2007, 12:36 PM
xstevex

im just iffy onn the back bumper. you can see like the whole muffler, and whatever you call it. whiteraven ran into the same problem with his rear bumper. look at the picture on gravanas site to see what im talking about.
http://www.gravanatuning.com/applica..._Aveo_Body_Kit

it could be quite hiddious...

jsut wanted to point that out incase you didnt see that.
dont want you to buy it, put it on and be like WTF!
11-10-2007, 12:40 PM
mikedudley17

ya that is kinda ugly like that, never noticed it before.
11-10-2007, 01:32 PM
g0ast

The good thing is you can pretty easily fill the hole up and mold it to blend in with the bumper so it looks like there never was a hole... Never accept things as is if you don't like it :P
11-10-2007, 03:33 PM
o4aveohb

or just get an aftermarket exhaust, it wont look as bad as our stock triangle exhaust...
11-10-2007, 05:28 PM
xstevex

you'll still see the undercarage, which i think looks the worst. filling in the hole would look a million times better, but i still dont know if id like it.
11-10-2007, 06:58 PM
mikedudley17

well if you just put a mesh screen across all the gaps on it except for where your exhaust would be, that should take care of most of the ugly.
11-11-2007, 02:17 AM
whiteraven

I say good luck. I want to see someone get this kit and make something great out of it. Need any help or got questions I'll do what I can.
11-11-2007, 06:32 PM
Kinkyllama

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedudley17

well if you just put a mesh screen across all the gaps on it except for where your exhaust would be, that should take care of most of the ugly.

+1, besides having a hole theres good for air flow so mesh would do it.

Also notice it fits up to 9" wide wheel in the front, and 10" in the rear...if you don't fill those gaps up with some wide wheels that cars going to look like total crap. I'd recommend 5zigen Fno1r-c, it's one of the few really lightweight, wide wheels available for less than $300 each and has a decent selection. You could probably just put 8" wide wheels on there if you get an offset that'll fill up the fenders well enough and some 235mm tires, anything bigger is a huge waste. Even if you double the hp of the car, and have an amazing suspension you won't get much use out of wider tires.
11-11-2007, 06:37 PM
kirbycope

http://aveoclub.net/phpBB2/garage.php?m ... mage_id=72

problem solved
11-11-2007, 06:47 PM
mikedudley17

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirbycope

http://aveoclub.net/phpBB2/garage.php?mode=view_gallery_item&type=garage_mod& image_id=72

problem solved

exactly what u need to do.
11-12-2007, 09:44 PM
Aveo_Tuner

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedudley17

well if you just put a mesh screen across all the gaps on it except for where your exhaust would be, that should take care of most of the ugly.

thats what i was thinking was black mesh and i have a custom cat back already what i was gonna do was center the tip out but keep it just behind the screen so you cant easily see it then i was gonna rattle can the undercarriage parts you can see black so its not as obvious
11-12-2007, 09:48 PM
Aveo_Tuner

and i was gonna go with big lip deep dish rims to fill the gap im mabye thinking a five lug conversion to handle the stress on the hubs what do you guya think???
11-12-2007, 10:49 PM
mikedudley17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aveo_Tuner

and i was gonna go with big lip deep dish rims to fill the gap im mabye thinking a five lug conversion to handle the stress on the hubs what do you guya think???

uh, what stress are we talkin about? if u are not puttin down at least 200 wtq then there shouldnt be too much stress on ur hubs, they are pretty solid as is, so whatever you are doin right now should be ok, even with the big rims.
11-12-2007, 11:50 PM
aveodude

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aveo_Tuner

and i was gonna go with big lip deep dish rims to fill the gap im mabye thinking a five lug conversion to handle the stress on the hubs what do you guya think???

You do realize that the lug nuts do not support any weight of the wheel. They just secure them to the hub. And filling in the back with fiberglass would be a bad idea because of the parachute effect it will cause. I would guarantee a loss in mpg and acceleration. And I think the mesh would look ricey because it is too much of an area to fill.
11-13-2007, 12:25 AM
mikedudley17

maybe another suggestion would be vents built into the rear of the bumper (only if it was fiberglassed in). that would help with the drag problem.

or maybe a redesigned rear bumper. whiteraven was/is working on one.
11-13-2007, 06:40 AM
aveodude

but then the question is, why buy an aftermarket rear bumper if you are gonna change everything about it?
11-13-2007, 03:04 PM
mikedudley17

hey im just tryin to throw ideas out there. thats kind of like asking why buy a car if you are going to change everything about it u know? it would just give him something to work with. and maybe because its the only wide body kit for our car (that i know of).
11-14-2007, 10:37 AM
whiteraven

I say go for it...I bought a previous SEMA car...everyone thought I'd just drive it... but I used it as a base to make a car I can be really proud to own for a long time.

If you are gonna start on a widebody, I suggest you join http://www.FiberglassForums.com and read up on all the helpful information there...you can save alot of money by making your own fender flares with foam and a hot knife.
11-14-2007, 03:49 PM
aveosummit

If you really want to do a special wide body kit for your aveo. You should look into getting a rear bumper piece from a lancer body kit. It will require some customizing but both sets will, just another option. Check out http://www.body-kitz.com/index1.html for body kit options, I know you can get it cheaper on other sites.
11-15-2007, 01:58 AM
Kinkyllama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aveo_Tuner

and i was gonna go with big lip deep dish rims to fill the gap im mabye thinking a five lug conversion to handle the stress on the hubs what do you guya think???

No need for the conversion...the only reason I'd recommend it is it's not fun finding wide wheels with the right offset for your car. Well let me rephrase that, It's nearly impossible to find LIGHT wheels in the right width and offset to fit your car with a widebody.
11-19-2007, 03:02 AM
Aveo_Tuner

i mean the stress from supporting 2058lbs going around a corner at 130kph in most cases the tires would slip but with 9 inch wide tires they wont as easily so that stress gets transfered somewhere i just dont know where ive seen studs get sheered off, rims break and suspensions fail im just trying to minimize the chances of this happening
11-19-2007, 05:46 PM
Kinkyllama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aveo_Tuner

i mean the stress from supporting 2058lbs going around a corner at 130kph in most cases the tires would slip but with 9 inch wide tires they wont as easily so that stress gets transfered somewhere i just dont know where ive seen studs get sheered off, rims break and suspensions fail im just trying to minimize the chances of this happening

Well from experiance with my car you shouldn't have problems. I know it's not the same car (btw I drive a forenza) but it's built alike.

I'm putting out 30% more whp than stock, and lost about 150#s. The tires I moved from 185mm crap to 215mm 200tread rating azenis street legal competition tires for the track. I've road raced about 10 hours like that, with fully adjustable coil-overs that are WAYYY to stiff, sway bars, and a chassis brace. I also have a freakin huge big brake kit. I've had no problems, or signs of problems with the studs. I just recently doubled my BBKs caliper size, moved up to 235mm 100tread rating full competition tire, added a good 15whp more, and added some more stiffness to the chassis/suspension. I haven't seen the track like this yet, but I've talked to a few people about my setup like this only with twice as much whp (with my turbo going on soon) and they said I'd be fine with ARP bolts, I didn't ask about stock cuz I wanted longer bolts anyways as I'm running spacers. ARP studs are as cheap as $20 for all four wheels so I'd get them if your worried
11-23-2007, 12:56 PM
Aveo_Tuner

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkyllama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aveo_Tuner

i mean the stress from supporting 2058lbs going around a corner at 130kph in most cases the tires would slip but with 9 inch wide tires they wont as easily so that stress gets transfered somewhere i just dont know where ive seen studs get sheered off, rims break and suspensions fail im just trying to minimize the chances of this happening

Well from experiance with my car you shouldn't have problems. I know it's not the same car (btw I drive a forenza) but it's built alike.

I'm putting out 30% more whp than stock, and lost about 150#s. The tires I moved from 185mm crap to 215mm 200tread rating azenis street legal competition tires for the track. I've road raced about 10 hours like that, with fully adjustable coil-overs that are WAYYY to stiff, sway bars, and a chassis brace. I also have a freakin huge big brake kit. I've had no problems, or signs of problems with the studs. I just recently doubled my BBKs caliper size, moved up to 235mm 100tread rating full competition tire, added a good 15whp more, and added some more stiffness to the chassis/suspension. I haven't seen the track like this yet, but I've talked to a few people about my setup like this only with twice as much whp (with my turbo going on soon) and they said I'd be fine with ARP bolts, I didn't ask about stock cuz I wanted longer bolts anyways as I'm running spacers. ARP studs are as cheap as $20 for all four wheels so I'd get them if your worried

ok thanks man i dont want to use spacers because the track were i go they wont pass a tech inspection and i think they are just unsafe i am building a grip car if it makes any difference im saving for the motor swap first but the body kit is close lol
12-19-2007, 09:45 PM
aveosummit

Widebody has new life....

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8426/img9509lq4.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6898/img9511id3.jpg

Widebody has new life....
12-19-2007, 10:03 PM
mikedudley17

the lids and tails are cool but the rest of it :puke:
12-19-2007, 11:07 PM
aveosummit

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedudley17

the lids and tails are cool but the rest of it :puke:

So do something better...you have to at least respect the custom work..
12-19-2007, 11:15 PM
mikedudley17

the effort i respect, but do i have to like it no. thats it, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

so where is this car from? europe?
12-19-2007, 11:26 PM
aveosummit

some place in Europe, i think.....
12-19-2007, 11:29 PM
mikedudley17

any specs on what was done to the motor?
12-19-2007, 11:56 PM
aveosummit

none that I have found.....but I will keep looking and see what I can find...
12-20-2007, 12:05 AM
mikedudley17

http://www.lowtuners.be/v5/modules.php? ... r=0&sid=61

^found this so far but no hard info....
12-20-2007, 12:19 AM
aveosummit

http://www.fabulouscars.be/

This is the link that I found the car on initially, pointed out to me by the guys at Mobile Spec...
10-08-2008, 03:42 PM
Aveo_Tuner

Re:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinkyllama

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedudley17

well if you just put a mesh screen across all the gaps on it except for where your exhaust would be, that should take care of most of the ugly.

+1, besides having a hole theres good for air flow so mesh would do it.

Also notice it fits up to 9" wide wheel in the front, and 10" in the rear...if you don't fill those gaps up with some wide wheels that cars going to look like total crap. I'd recommend 5zigen Fno1r-c, it's one of the few really lightweight, wide wheels available for less than $300 each and has a decent selection. You could probably just put 8" wide wheels on there if you get an offset that'll fill up the fenders well enough and some 235mm tires, anything bigger is a huge waste. Even if you double the hp of the car, and have an amazing suspension you won't get much use out of wider tires.

yeah i actually race the car on a regular basis so i need a skinnier tire so i acn actually get some heat into them i wouldnt go wider than a 235
10-08-2008, 03:44 PM
Aveo_Tuner

Re:

Quote:

Originally Posted by aveodude

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aveo_Tuner

and i was gonna go with big lip deep dish rims to fill the gap im mabye thinking a five lug conversion to handle the stress on the hubs what do you guya think???

You do realize that the lug nuts do not support any weight of the wheel. They just secure them to the hub. And filling in the back with fiberglass would be a bad idea because of the parachute effect it will cause. I would guarantee a loss in mpg and acceleration. And I think the mesh would look ricey because it is too much of an area to fill.

yeah im talking cornering forces in which the lugs do encounter load