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      Capacitor vs. BATCAP

      What is a BATCAP©?

      A conventional battery, as we all know has a positive and negative terminal. The chemical reaction within creates
      a flow of electrons, causing an electronic device (in this case an amplifier) to work. The stiffening capacitor is similar
      to a battery in that it stores a charge. The fundamental difference is it cannot create electrons. It can only store and
      supply (discharge) them upon demand. The advantage with a capacitor is that it discharges in one twenty thousandth
      of a second, unlike a battery that does in one second. The battery therefore cannot discharge fast enough to effectively
      supply the amplifier and this is the reason for "power sags."

      WAKE UP! Don't fall asleep just yet, we're getting to the exciting part!

      The XSTATIC BATCAP© is simply a battery that can discharge just a s quickly as a capacitor. Therefore, you have a
      constant supply of electrons that will discharge at lightning speed. This puts less strain on your stock alternator and battery.
      It also recharges faster than a conventional battery since the internal resistance is low. How about the install? Well I'm sure
      you can find a place to put this 2.5lb. baby and his 5lb. big brother. Don't let the size fool you though. These BATCAP's
      can crank your car, and you can bet we put that to the test!

      The cost is another remarkable feature since the 300 model costs the same as a "High End" stiffening capacitor and the
      400 model costs a little more. Remember, "good things come in small packages." (I was going to say that "SIZE" doesn't
      matter but, let's not offend anyone now.) Oh, by the way, the fact that the BATCAP© is capable of discharging in a RUSH
      over a 5-10 second period SCREAMS three letters, "SPL!"

      Written by: Rodney Kurbanali
      San Juan, Trinidad, WI


      capacitor

      A capacitor is a passive electronic component that stores energy in the form of an electrostatic field. In its simplest form, a capacitor consists of two conducting plates separated by an insulating material called the dielectric. The capacitance is directly proportional to the surface areas of the plates, and is inversely proportional to the separation between the plates. Capacitance also depends on the dielectric constant of the substance separating the plates.

      The standard unit of capacitance is the farad, abbreviated F. This is a large unit; more common units are the microfarad, abbreviated µF (1 µF = 10-6 F) and the picofarad, abbreviated pF (1 pF = 10-12 F).
      Many people are quick to suggest buying a capacitor, but for a lower price you can get a batcap with greater capacity then the capacitor. BATCAP also has a dry cell battery that gives similar performace comparable to the optima battery(red/yellow top).

      Check out BATCAP


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      Alumapro C.A.P vs BATCAP

      What Alumapro had to say:

      12-15-06

      The C.A.P. is a high density, high-speed capacitor that will stabilize your
      electrical system. It will provide massive peak currents for musical peaks,
      and instantly recharge between the peaks. It is nearly 100% efficient in
      operation. It is built on military technology and built to last a long time.

      The BatCap is a thin-film BATTERY---it is not a capacitor at all. A battery
      cannot charge as quickly as it can discharge, so it is only about 5%
      efficient. In addition, it quickly deteriorates at temperatures above 75
      degrees and is not designed to last very long.

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      Well I have to wonder, what is a C.A.P.? I know what a capacitor is, but is that what Alumapro is refering to?
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      Quote Originally Posted by ontarian_frog
      Well I have to wonder, what is a C.A.P.? I know what a capacitor is, but is that what Alumapro is refering to?
      Quote Originally Posted by aveosummit
      The C.A.P. is a high density, high-speed capacitor that will stabilize your
      electrical system.
      Yes, they are referring to the C.A.P....
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      Wouldn't the "bat cap" eventually lose it's ability to retain charge, much like a regular car battery?

      With each time you deep cycle a battery, it's ability to retain a charge is diminished. I don't believe capacitors work in the same way (I still have 386 motherboards that run fine).
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      Quote Originally Posted by exodus
      Wouldn't the "bat cap" eventually lose it's ability to retain charge, much like a regular car battery?

      With each time you deep cycle a battery, it's ability to retain a charge is diminished. I don't believe capacitors work in the same way (I still have 386 motherboards that run fine).
      12/19/06
      A conventional battery is rated at 300 cycles at 10% depth of discharge.
      The batcap is rated at 1500 cycles at 30% depth of discharge. If it was
      used like an automobile battery, it could easily last 10 years.
      We thank you for your interest in our products and we hope you can use
      them soon.
      Sincerely,
      Ray Mckenzie, President, Xstatic Corp, LLC, Home of the Batcap
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      totally going to wire this up to my starting system.
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      Has anyone purchased a BATCAP?
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      BatCap has competition CAPCELL

      CAPCELL:
      TO CAP OR TO CELL… THAT IS THE QUESTION!
      Often called a “power cap” or “stiffening cap”, some people prefer caps over secondary batteries. A second battery is great for high power systems, but should be accompanied by an upgraded alternator that can efficiently charge both batteries. This gets expensive. A cap stores power too, but can charge and discharge in a fraction of a second, depending on size. While great for transient peaks in music, it does not have the stamina that a battery has and is not an equivalent substitute.
      Our Cap Cells are a fusion of both products. The Cap Cell offers auxiliary power with the ability to enhance the transient notes, often suppressed in car audio systems with an OEM battery, while being able to reinforce the battery during long, intense bass notes. A second alternator is not necessary, making the Cap Cell a perfect addition and an affordable way to supply the necessary power for a system.

      http://koleaudio.com/products_components.html
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      http://splusa.net/CAPSELL.htm

      Just thought I would share something new for 08 with everyone. Let me know what you think....




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