17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
Hey..
I was looking for my first upgrade today, rims. I found a set of Toro's TR9006, black with machined lip.
They are 17" with a bolt pattern of 4x100 4X114.3 and an offset +38mm. Tires are 205-40R17.
I've had a little rub when I hit dips. Not bad, unless I intentionally hit the dip hard(to test it). I had a Probe 15 years ago that had a similar problem rubbing, so I bought 4 rubber "stoppers" that went in between the coils on the springs to keep the car from bottoming out.
Do you think that will work here or any suggestions? I read where 17's fit, so I am a little thrown off.
Thanks in advance for any recommendations!
Vern
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
damn those are nice w/ yellow. um i think they will help but i hear they fall after a while. theres some spring spacers at auto zone for like 15 buck. u can make ur springs wider similar to those rubber spacers.
im running 18s 215/35/18 they rub with dips like drive ways. but not on the road. but i did notice when my wife and i r n the car it rubs a bit more cause of weight. shes like 98 pounds.
im about 185.<- needs 2 loose some weight. but anywho, when she drives it never rubs.
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
Ok, I will check out Auto Zone in the morning. I rubbed three times tonight. Once on accident and twice on purpose(I wanted to see what it would take).
BTW, I see on your car you have the clear side lights. Did they come from the factory or did you install them?
I wanted to get a set.
Thanks for the advice!
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
they are factory.
the items called rear adjustable 2way spring lox
item # 18-1201A
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/access ... 41730_0_0_
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
add to the bump stops on the shocks. thats the proper way to do it. putting the rubbers in the springs puts a pivot in the spring which is a weak point, and your really rub around a bend if that point on the spring breaks or bends..
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
Thanks Petrified.Rabbit!
I've never done/heard of that. Any guidance on the specifics? Is it a major job? Expensive?
Thanks!
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
Not expensive. Not terribly difficult. Look in the coilover thread I posted it shows the bump stops and where they are located.
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
I have the same exact size wheels, maybe actually wider (17x7.5) if yours are 7" wide... but mine are 42+mm offset. No rubbing whatsoever, even with 1.5" lowering springs... Could be that KYB shocks are stiffer, but I thought that 42+mm offset rims are placed a little bit more outwards, so there is no rubbing on the inner fender well... If that's the case, there are some spacers to help with that... But rabbit would know a heck of a lot more about that than me... :lol:
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/tec ... techid=101
They say that improper offset for the car could adversely affect the handling.... Just my $0.02USD 8)
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
Thanks for the info. I will see what rabbit says about the spacers. I am honestly not sure if I am rubbing on the inner fender well or the outer. 103 outside, gonna let it cool down and then see what I can determine.
I sure hope I can work this out, I love these rims! I am not super technical when it comes to cars. At least not the mechanical portion. A/V I am good. [-o<
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
higher offset (+) number sits in further..
serega : a rim with a 7.5 inch width and 42mm offset (your specs) has @ 5.9" backspacing (hub mounting surface to edge of inner lip) and 2.6" to the edge of the outside lip..
orion, presuming you have a 7" rim.. and a 38mm offset, you have @ 5.5" backspacing and 2.5" to the outside lip..
with those numbers i would presume you should not rub, but i am willing to bet it is on the outside during a turn.. most likely on the plastic wheel well where the fender meets the bumper in a turn. i rub the a lot..
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
rabbit,
From what I can find, I think they are a 7.5" rim. I don't rub on turning, only when I take a corner a bit fast and the body leans or when I hit a dip and the shocks allow the body to come down.
Not too sure what the best option is to resolve this and not dramatically change my ride.
Thanks!
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
Sorry for misinforming you... it's actually +40 mm offset for me... but the rest of the specs are the same: 17x7.5, 4x100 (not double-pattern)...
But if you tighten the suspension a bit with rabbit's coilovers and ultra racing sway/strut bars, the body roll should be greatly reduced. So even though it will be lowered, your car won't lean far enough to rub.
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
Your rubbing at turns at speed, that's still rubbing.
Take a wheel off and look for the wear. I can refigure out your numbers but you are both about the Same specs within 2mm which isn't much.
First thing to check for where you are rubbing is to put you had through the wheel opening and see if the tire is close to the spring/strut. Do this with it on the ground. You don't need
much room as the move together. But if it is too goose they might rub.
Then Jack it up. Use the control arm if you want to raise the wheel into the well. But have Jack stands under the k frame to hold the front end off the ground. Turn the wheel full lock to lock see where it is close? That's probably a potential rub spot.
You have been rubbing though. So you can skip that and just look for the rub marks. Take the wheel off. Check the wheel well etc. For rub marks.
There are 3 places I rubbed on hard turns (autocross) with a 7.5 in rim and 40 mm offset. They were the pocket in the fender liner for the bumper bolts to the fender. It sticks out into the tire path. The second was on the back of the fender right about where the "gm" square is, I actually have a slight slight buckle in the fender from a particular sharp lef. On one of the courses. The third would be anywhere between those tow points with the tire turned and the car dipping far enough.
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
im jealous i wanted something like that on my car.
Re: 17" Toro's on a 2009 Aveo5 LT
Oriontool, did you ever figure out what was rubbing?
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Nope! I have no idea. The fender wells look good and no paint is rubbing off on the fenders. I am thinking it may be (again, I am not too technical :shock: ) the bottom of the shock mount or guard.
Gonna try again, but just not sure.