hey serega12,
I'm curious how do you like your H&Rs/KYBs and how long have you had them/how many KMs or miles?
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hey serega12,
I'm curious how do you like your H&Rs/KYBs and how long have you had them/how many KMs or miles?
Very satisfied with them. H&R gives me just enough drop to where it looks good and doesn't scrape in most of the places (i have less than an inch, maybe less than 1/2" clearance when entering the apartments I live in). The ride is surprisingly comfortable. KYB's definitely make a difference since they're two-way shocks/struts, not one-way as our OEM struts, so the ride became a lot more "stable" going over continuous bumps when going through downtown Seattle since they have the cross-connectors of the bridges (I don't know what they're called, but they are across the bridge every few seconds when you go on the ramps/bridges). Anyways, it actually feels more stable than stock yet not as rough of a ride as with the other lowered cars I've driven. As a matter of fact, driving it feels more comfortable, especially with the reduced roll when entering/exiting the freeway and taking tight turns, yet people who ride in it don't know that it's actually lowered unless I tell them, so it's comfortable enough). And there was no problems with the installation - they were a perfect fit. I haven't had them on for long, maybe a few months, but since I quit commuting 75 miles one way to work (150 a day, so I was putting about 750 miles on my car a week)... I don't get to drive as much, so I only maybe put on a 1k miles on them so I can't say nothing in regards to longevity of the parts. Hope this helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by byron84
That was very helpful, thanks alot for the detail. When I first got mine, the ride quality was seriously not bad at all (100% oem original @ 55k km), but it has deteriorated quite a bit since then, mostly my fault. I definitely want to get the best possible when I spend to fix it up, I'll probably be keeping it a long time. I'm thinking about petrified.rabbit's coilover kit if that works out.Quote:
Originally Posted by serega12
Honestly, your car looks pretty good but I think that's too low for me. I was looking at the Eibach kit, but wasn't sure if it would fit since it didn't say it was for the 2004 -> but it's a 1.3 drop in the front and 1.0 in the back, sounds pretty good to me.
I think the Aveo must do fairly well with a good suspension and the ultra racing sway bar kit or something similar. If I do keep her a while, I definitely want it to handle well.
I'm glad I could help, Byron. :)
I'm actually very happy with the drop. For me, its not too high/not too low set up. I'm yet to bottom it out. :D. My right front wheel has rubbed a few times against wheel well liner but that was only because I didn't secure the liner properly and it sat about 1/4 - 1/2" lower than it should be. Plus no complaints from the riders so far, so that's a good thing.
And, to my knowledge, you're right about Eibach springs, they do give you the least amount of drop, but to me that was a negative thing. :D. It depends on each persons preference, driving style, and desired final setup.
I have a 2009 G3 and I was wondering what springs would work for it ?
OK. Maybe this should be a sticky or something. All Aveos, Waves, G3s....etc have the same springs. Therefore all lowering springs for them will fit. The suspension design hasn't changed in the 7 years the car has been out.Quote:
Originally Posted by VAG3
time for rabbit's coilovers everyone!
are you saying they're ready?
No they're not. Give it time. He needs to test them too. that takes time.Quote:
Originally Posted by serega12
How has it deteriorated, and why was it your fault?Quote:
Originally Posted by byron84
I was negligent. I left the province and let the car sit for almost 6 months barely ever being moved at all. I drove it through some areas with a full load (well, 4 people in the car), areas more suitable to off-road vehicles... it was pretty bad. I drove around with ppl in the back too often who were immature and kept jumping around in the back seat like 5 year olds ... I put a bunch of really heavy stuff (only a short trip) ... all in all, just not really diligent car ownership, and so 40k km later it shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG
This time around, I will treat her right..
I am definitely interested in rabbit's coilovers, but kyb/h&r combo or kyb/eibach is also an option. I also want to get the sway bar kit, but one thing at a time
Between dlspeedonline.com and amazon, I can get the kyb/h&r combo for $380 plus shipping. rabbit's coilovers will not cost all that much more, so it might be worth the wait. guess we'll see what happens!
edit: i gotta change my timing belt, water pump (and i just ordered the metal thermostat housing) ... once all that is done, hopefully within the next couple weeks, then i can look at suspension and other stuff!
serega12, I have another question. When I mention to other people that I'm thinking about doing this, they seem concerned that the shock will give a bouncy ride and blow out because it wasn't made for that kind of spring rate or something like that.
I'm wondering if you have experienced any bounciness? I know you said it's only been a few months so you can't say anything for longevity (well, at least it hasn't blown out so far eh?).
I definitely want much improved handling, just having some difficulty deciding the best way to go.
Byron, the "bounciness" is usually when you go with the lowering springs and stay with the OEM shocks/struts. That's what I experienced with Geo Metro (89), lowered 96 accord (it was BOUNCY until we bought some coil overs for it), 98 Jetta with cut springs... two-way struts are the way to go. The KYB's DO have one bounce, but that's just it... there is no wave of a few bounces after it until it stabilizes. Two-way shocks stabilize after the first bounce. And of course your ride will get "stiffer" because the compression rates of springs are different, but I wouldn't do it if I couldn't change the struts/springs at the same time...
Hope this answer makes sense...
Ok so basically what I get from this is that if you get lowering springs with bone stock shocks, you'll bounce into oblivion (and your shocks might blow out after some time?).Quote:
Originally Posted by serega12
With aftermarket shocks like the KYB, you won't be bouncing all over the place. If the ride experience is somewhat normal (of course it's stiffer, that's to be expected), then I'd definitely consider it.
on an unrelated note, I confirmed with Ultra Racing that their bars do in fact fit all model aveos, according to Phil Wakefield, VP Sales
The ride IS normal. But it will get a lot stiffer once you get the anti-roll/sway bars... Articulation will get reduced...