I don't know what the roads are like down there here in Germany its a lot of cobblestone roads i wouldn't dream of taking 17s anywhere near these roads 15s look nice tires are fair priced there is a lot more 15s than 17s out there with out bolt pattern. But at the end of the day it comes to what YOU really want your buying them your installing them and your taking the risk of curb rash or bending the 17s then you just wasted your money.