FT: Cut springs

Hello,

I am getting some H&R's (if they ever get here) and would like to trade my stock cut springs for some stock springs plus $50. I know not everyone is able to cut springs so thought this could be a good trade for somoene. I cut one full coil front and rear so it does seat nicely. The back is a little lower than the front so I would probably cut one more from the front to give it a better stance. If someone wanted, I can even cut a total of 3 front and 2 rear which will make the front a little lower than the back and bring the car down quite well.

Anyone interested? I know there is the one with 3 coils cut front and rear and it sits very low and looks pretty damn good.

If you are in Vegas or comeing to vegas, I'll trade you for $30. Or for $100 I'll even install them.

not a good idea to use cut springs.......can be very dangerous......

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Originally Posted by khan4rtist

not a good idea to use cut springs.......can be very dangerous......

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dangerous? explain please before i go get coils taken off of mine

The only thing dangerous about it is:

1. If you use torch, you are modifying the springs molecular arrangements, making it weaker.

2. Spring will be have the same rigidity as the stock piece, might bottom out easily.

If I missed something please elaborate.

On most cars if you cut the springs they will not seat properly. Well the aveo springs only taper on one side, NOT both. That said if you cut straight down you will have no ill side effects.

I got the H&R's in today and wow, much better. If I cut one more coil out of the front totaling 2 front and 1 rear, that would give the same height as the H&R's. If I cut 3 total front and 2 total rear the ride should sit very nice. Similar to the one that has 3 cut front and rear but just a little more hieght in the rear.

This is good for someone who wants a soft ride but a low car.

P.S. If I was a grumpy person, I would smack you through the computer for saying such a blanket (albiet usually true) statement. Please research the spring design and follow that up with road testing (I have had them for 20k) prior to making any more blanket statements.

just so I'm not confused, who are you talking to?

i have the apex coils and i cut 2 off each of them, been running it for about a year, car has 80 000 km and the stock shocks are still fine (that kinda surprises me since its been lowered for just over 2 years) the ride is firm, some roads are a real pain but i like it, it corners like crazy

most of my reply was to khan. As for riding around on cut springs and 80000km with the shocks/struts still good I seriously doubt that. When I cut mine at 10000miles the front struts were ok but the rear shocks were gone. Last night the fronts were equally gone, one couldnt even hold its own weight. The car only has about 35,000 miles

KYB needs to make some front struts.

if you cut your stock springs, your ride will be crap, you will loose your spring rate and your shocks not too soon there after if you dont cut them right. basically your car will be held up by your shock. i always thought that cutting stock springs was for ricers any ways. save your money and buy some h&rs or something and get a real drop, you can cut those but make sure you have the right shocks that can support it, and in our situation theres not, so just dont cut them too much. Personally, i think cutting spings is right up there with paper mache body kits and leaf blower turbos......

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Originally Posted by khan4rtist

if you cut your stock springs, your ride will be crap, you will loose your spring rate and your shocks not too soon there after if you dont cut them right. basically your car will be held up by your shock. i always thought that cutting stock springs was for ricers any ways. save your money and buy some h&rs or something and get a real drop, you can cut those but make sure you have the right shocks that can support it, and in our situation theres not, so just dont cut them too much. Personally, i think cutting spings is right up there with paper mache body kits and leaf blower turbos......

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I Agree if you cut them you Mess you're ride up realllllllllllllll good. and the ride on the road is not as smooth as i would like it so i think air ride would be better. rather then cut springs

Cutting one coil, the ride did not change from stock. Cutting 3, I imagine it will. If you can afford it, go with H&R, if you cant and you want it low or if you want it low but don't want the stiff ride then go with these cut stock springs.

id rather have a stiff ride than a bumpy ride

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Originally Posted by khan4rtist

if you cut your stock springs, your ride will be crap, you will loose your spring rate and your shocks not too soon there after if you dont cut them right. basically your car will be held up by your shock. i always thought that cutting stock springs was for ricers any ways. save your money and buy some h&rs or something and get a real drop, you can cut those but make sure you have the right shocks that can support it, and in our situation theres not, so just dont cut them too much. Personally, i think cutting spings is right up there with paper mache body kits and leaf blower turbos......

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Well i dont have the stock springs and i wouldnt have cut those either, there is no real way to proove to you guys what i said, the car does have 80k and the stock shocks are still there and they are still good, the ride is firm and not bouncy, i guess i did it right (a friend of mine has a 1300$ coilover system on his golf and he actually likes the ride in mine better)

i still have the stock brakes for crying out loud lol, the only thing thats starting to worry me is the timing belt, but the way i run the car i wonder why it hasnt snapped yet lol, i should try to make a video but i dont have a camcorder

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Interesting post i found on daewootech about cutting springs:
http://www.brickboard.com/ARCHIVES/1999 ... 7837.shtml

It's hard to tell when your shocks/struts are bad by the ride quality sometimes. The real test is taking a fast bumpy turn. If the back washes then your shocks are probably bad. I thought mine were good but when I took it apart I could easily slide the shaft in and out. In fact one of the fronts couldn't even keep it up. (why does that not sound right?)

Khan - my ride was not bouncy in fact I couldnt tell a difference from stock. Go ahead and get the H&R's they are great. I just hope KYB makes some replacement front struts soon.

Nemasys - I don't doubt your ride quality. My car rides good on known bad shocks. Turns pretty good too though there is a lot of slop in the steering. I hope to get rid of most of it with lower profile tires. I'm also more sensative to my cars behavior than most.