The Aveo Got Sandwiched.

Hey guys I wasn't able to lurk around these days due to the fact I got into an accident last Monday and I've been dealing with the insurance and all that since my boyfriend and I were in the middle so we got hit really hard. We were stopped waiting for the light which that day I wasn't driving but by coincidence my boyfriend looked at the rear mirror and as soon he looked away he noticed this guy driving a brand new Benz S550 coming and hit us really hard but since my boyfriend knew we were getting hit he tried to maneuver the car turning to the left but still it made it slide forward and hitting the car in the front by the passenger corner where we received most of the damage and as soon I got out of the car I was so pissed because I looked at both car and the Benz didn't have anything in the bumper just his airbag went off and the one in front just received a slight scratch so when I looked at mind my front bumper was all messed up but gladly nothing else got damaged like the hood and fenders etc. However I was so pissed off to see the car like that since I always take care for being a girl but at least it wasn't that bad at all. By the way I have a question because I called my insurance and they told me they can fix it or the others guy insurance but if mine fix it do my insurance go up just because of that?

Glad to hear you all were safe. :)

I'm so sorry that your car got sandwiched but very greatful you all are ok. Insurance wise it depends on the laws in your state and how your policy is written. Here in NY unfortunately if you hit someone from behind youre automatically at fault no matter what the situation is. Its called No-Fault. NY believes that no matter what the situtation is you shouldve left yourself a way out. Stupid as it is, that law leaves a lot of gray area. I'm not sure how that applies to being rear ended and being pushed into the guy in front of you though.

no fault usually pins it all on the furthest back driver OR percentages it out amongst all the cars..
(like back drive pays 100% for fist car he hit, and 50% of the car he pushed you into.)

typically though if your own insurance fixes it, they will "sue" his insurance and get the money back, but whether your insurance goes up or not is all local laws and policy allowances (just the fact you reported the accident to them could allow them to raise your rates in some places)..

Glad your ok, thats all that is important.

ouch.. any pics of damage? glad ur ok. loved ur aveo

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Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit

no fault usually pins it all on the furthest back driver OR percentages it out amongst all the cars..
(like back drive pays 100% for fist car he hit, and 50% of the car he pushed you into.)
typically though if your own insurance fixes it, they will "sue" his insurance and get the money back, but whether your insurance goes up or not is all local laws and policy allowances (just the fact you reported the accident to them could allow them to raise your rates in some places)..
Glad your ok, thats all that is important.

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If I'm not mistaken I also believe that theres a certain amount of monetary damages before it affects your policy, like $2500 and below before rates are raised? Dont quote me on this. I'm guesstimating based on something I heard once. The bottom line is that the car is replaceable and you and your boyfriend are not. Glad youre all ok!

thats all state laws etc.. my rates are only supposed to go up if a cause an accident or get tickets.

i've personally never had a reported an accident to my insurance, my wife has had 3. I get tickets occasionally though, and our rates remain the same.

In pa the laws are going to be very different from ny, az, fl etc..

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Originally Posted by AveoJoe

Glad to hear you all were safe. :)

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Thank you, yes at least we didn't have no major problem. ;-)

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Originally Posted by NYChevoo

I'm so sorry that your car got sandwiched but very greatful you all are ok. Insurance wise it depends on the laws in your state and how your policy is written. Here in NY unfortunately if you hit someone from behind youre automatically at fault no matter what the situation is. Its called No-Fault. NY believes that no matter what the situtation is you shouldve left yourself a way out. Stupid as it is, that law leaves a lot of gray area. I'm not sure how that applies to being rear ended and being pushed into the guy in front of you though.

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Thanks for the reply, it sucks that some states have their law kind of messed up when it applies like in my situation however I think here in Florida its the same but surprisingly I didn't get no ticket which I think the cop understood it wasn't my fault hitting the car in front when I got hit as well. Instead the guy in the Mercedes Benz got a ticket for careless driving and the other for no proof of insurance so that leaves without a doubt at No-Fault situation. ;)

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Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit

no fault usually pins it all on the furthest back driver OR percentages it out amongst all the cars..
(like back drive pays 100% for fist car he hit, and 50% of the car he pushed you into.)

typically though if your own insurance fixes it, they will "sue" his insurance and get the money back, but whether your insurance goes up or not is all local laws and policy allowances (just the fact you reported the accident to them could allow them to raise your rates in some places)..

Glad your ok, thats all that is important.

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Well you're right but I called my insurance and supposedly they won't know if it will go up my rate however they said it might not up since I didn't have no fault in the accident. They offered me to fix my car but instead I told them the other insurance was going to because I wanted it to fix themselves and since they have been a pain in the butt when they gave me an estimate of ~$930 for the damages and on top of that they said the parts weren't going to be new but used/recycled ones so thats why I told my insurance not to cover in fixing the Aveo. :mad:

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Originally Posted by oscare003

ouch.. any pics of damage? glad ur ok. loved ur aveo

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Thank you, yeah sure I will upload them tonight when I get to my house. ;)

I hate no fault laws, good to hear you guys are okay!

That really bites, AveoGirl. Glad to hear you're OK though.

Well here are some pictures of all damages.

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Here in the last picture you can see how the bumper got bent.
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I spoke to the guy in the bodyshop that is taking care of my repair about replacing the bumper with the one that has fog lights but supposedly he said the existing one might works just by taking out the covers itself. Does anyone know if that my be a possibility? :confused:

it does work that way, pull the covers and fogs can go in.

And rear body panel damage? like the back of the trunk? The way the tethers for the child seats are right there has had me nervous for my kids (i dont use them) because if it gets hit above the bumper (by an suv) the rear body panel is the point of impact, and the tethers would pull my kids towards the collision head first..

Yea i added oem fogs to my aveo. There is a screw behind the black rubber piece so make sure you remove it before trying to pull the rubber cover off. I pulled and broke the black cover the first time because i didnt know there was a screw holding it in.

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Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit

it does work that way, pull the covers and fogs can go in.

And rear body panel damage? like the back of the trunk? The way the tethers for the child seats are right there has had me nervous for my kids (i dont use them) because if it gets hit above the bumper (by an suv) the rear body panel is the point of impact, and the tethers would pull my kids towards the collision head first..

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Oh ok yeah the guy told me the same thing but I just wanted to make sure about that. So far I don't think there is more damage in that area however my boyfriend took a peek through the side to look inside the rear bumber and the rear metal might be slightly bent.

Thank you for the reply, it is good that just removing the fog cover might solve it so I can put the fogs which I already have so did you see if it came pre-wired like some cars come from factory?

Mine didnt have any wires. I just ran wires from both fog lights to the battery and to my switch so i can control when my lights are on. The oems just bolt on to the same spot the covers do and i believe the ones i bought on ebay already had the bolt to hook it up. It came with light bulbs aswell im just planning on switching to 3000k HIDs in my fogs.

Thanks for the info I just need know to see how I figure it leaving to a friend's of mine that has an electronic shop to see if he can make it happen in installing the fogs wiring.

ur car doesnt look 2 bad. the airbags didnt deploy?

The rear end held up pretty good but the front was another story. No the airbags didn't deploy probably since somehow my boyfriend looked back on the rearview mirror and knew that we were getting hit to avoid hitting the car in front but he swerved to the left causing the whole damage in the passenger's corner area therefore if that wouldn't had happen then the damage was gonna be more in the front.

I got an update from the bodyshop guy and he said they have not touched the car to fix it yet since he received a brand new rear bumper from the insurance and supposedly the guy's insurance told the bodyshop to repair the damage bumper however they said they won't because its impossible to repair so now they have to wait for the replacement bumper to arrive at their shop and there was damage in both of the reinforcement bars which got bent as well so basically they will have to replace those too.

Well last Tuesday I went to see the damages of the Aveo since they told me they removed both bumpers so I snapped some pictures. As you can see the passenger side received the damage which it got bent and also the rear side got pushed in a little bit as well where they mark the blue dotted lines.

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Is it wrong if I think it looks good without bumpers?
PS. Looks like your camber is off in back.

Honestly for some reason you're right, it does look without bumpers though. :lol:

lol. I have an eye for design and a love of engineering. Who says engineering can't be beautiful?

I had a very similar accident myself...i tried to sue the other party but did not get any money but they said my car was a total loss and they paid for a broken bicep muscle which i suffered...i dont know why they declared it total loss cause if you look at my Aveo it has minimal damage, hey at least i dont have to worry about payments anymore.

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Does anyone know what is this, after my accident mine was detached ??

that is the charcoal canister for the evap system. it basically holds the evaporated gas fumes in there until the engine opens a valve to such it in.