I dont know if anyone has noticed but the cobalt ss is now a turbocharged version, just saw this as I was checking mpg ratings
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I dont know if anyone has noticed but the cobalt ss is now a turbocharged version, just saw this as I was checking mpg ratings
Yeah they announced back in 2006 that the 08 would be a turbo
ah so im a little late to the party
Whos having a party? I'm there, I'll bring the beer!!
yup, on css.net, someone spied a gm test vehicle of the turboed cobalt. but i beleive they are releasing it for 09, not 08, may be wrong tho.
it said 08 on chevy.com
hhhmmm i thought the 08 cars were already out... im pretty sure the tc versions arent for sale yet, but again im goin off memory.
the cobalt SS turbo will be out before june as a 2008 model, im pretty sure chevy said it'll cost $23K with most of the option included.
2008.5
Yeah, the supercharged ones tend to have supercharger issues. Guess that paticular Supercharger was junk from the beginning. I have one that races with us, and his made all sorts of noise(clunking, clicking, popping and rattleing). eventually they replaced it under warranty, then 3 months latter its developing clicking again...
And someone else in our car community where i live had one just sieze up.
Guess there where quite a bit of reliability issues with the Superchargers... Engines are awsome, better off with a turbo i think!
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Originally Posted by AutoXChris
they got rid of the supercharged cobalts because of all the problems like u said and it wouldnt meet emission standards, so they put the turbo in and it is better off like u said too.
Not to mention the supercharged ones are slow as aids. This new engine is gonna be much nicer with the exception of direct injection. Hopefully they make the internals stronger as well.
Well if the supercharged ones didnt meet emissions then they need to come up with new a emission system on the colbalt because turbo vehicle fail emissions more due to the fact that turbo vehicles take longer to light up the catQuote:
Originally Posted by mkt8891
obviously it isnt a problem or they would not waste the time and money making it the way they did. And is there even any proof saying they swapped from the supercharger because of emissions?
The supercharged cobalts are only 2 or 3 tenths slower than the turbo balts.Quote:
Originally Posted by aveodude
plus the direct injection kills a lot of what could be out there for after market on the turbo balts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPr0TQX ... re=related
theres a video...take a look at the times.
its not that much of a difference...the lowest ive seen is 13.9 on a magazine so you figure a super good driver may get 13.8 or 13.7.
The regular supercharged cobalts ran as low as 14.0 stock..
Not a huge difference.
And again direct injection is going to hinder a lot of the aftermarket for the cobalt. The Sky and Solstice have had the same engine for a few years now and there is still very very little out for them except for intake and exhaust and a few other small things.
Look at the aftermarket for the SS/SC. They cant make one fast without nitrous. Compare it to a SRT-4 or MS3 and you will see how much of a failure it was.
Your talking to the wrong guy buddy i know loads about ss/sc's and the other cars....MS3's do NOT have a huge following because they are using direct injection. Luckily for the MS3 they were very open to the few mods they have. It took the SRT-4 years to get the backing that they have in the aftermarket world and there are quite a few cobalts pushing over 350 hp with either a supercharger or turboed.Quote:
Originally Posted by aveodude
A) it took the srt-4 3 years for a street car (full interior and driven to/from the track)to get into the 10s and that was without such great tuning options like HP tuners. It was ran off an SAFC. Name me a cobalt that has done that or even one into the low 11s.
B) the MS3 is leaps and bounds ahead of the SS/SC in terms of aftermarket and performance once after its modded. CAI is all it needs to crack off a 13.7 How much work does it take a cobalt to cut a 13.7 on stock tires?
Please dont think I dont know about some cobalts because I do. I have worked on many. Their greatest downfall is that crappy m62. No one is making fast times on the stock supercharger period. What times are those 350WHP cobalts running because power numbers mean nothing. Lets see some times.
whitfield racing cobalt is hittin 10s at a constant.
the aftermarket is there for a cobalt, but u gotta know where to look. alot of it is coming from small ma and pa shops.
That is not a SS/SC. It started out as this http://www.tunerzine.com/view_news/news ... alt-part-1
And I said street driven. Not a factory backed all out drag car.
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Originally Posted by aveodude
Matco came to our school with 2 cobalts, one full out race car, and another that can be raced, but if u take the slicks off and put regular street tires on u could drive it down the road. both were turboed and the one u could drive on the road was pushing upwards of 400hp if i remember correctly.
eh who cares both ss and srt4 suck
Sure looks like a street car to meQuote:
Originally Posted by mkt8891
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2279/...d2d8df.jpg?v=0
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Originally Posted by aveodude
no they have another one its orange and its in a completly different class
here is the other matco turbo cobalt:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1285/...feaf6f.jpg?v=0
Here is the rear of that car. I dont think he deploys the chute when he is slowing for a traffic light. And it is not a SS/SC either. It uses a completely different motor. And FWIW, it's major sponsor is K&N
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/...55f433.jpg?v=0
the fact that its not a SS/SC makes it even better, and who cares if its major sponsor is K&N, u would be damn happy if they sponsored you. hell i know i would. Id be happy if i only got sponsorship from Autometer or sylvania. ****, more free **** for me! :D
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Originally Posted by aveodude
if u read my previous post i said that both were turboed Ecotec engines. and if u were driving around u could probably take the chute off. yea its major sponsor is K&N, but matco owns and built it.
Hell yeah I would be happy if I was sponsored. The point I was making is that the SS/SC is not very capable in the aftermarket. The LSJ has been around since 2004 and there are a handful(less than 5) of fast ones that run less than 12s. I think this new one will be much better and I really hope that it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikedudley17
oh good lord i hope its better too, i hear of countless problems with the eaton superchargers. but then again, who knows what troubles this new turbo setup will bring. anyone know what kind of turbo they are using in the new balts?
I traded in my 06 cobalt for my new Aveo. Here's the deal, my view of the Cobalt, and I had an LS model was that it was no slouch as it was. I didn't care for much of the car, but the performance was one thing I never had much of a complaint about.
Was it a race car? Not by any means, but for a 2.2L engine, it had some get-up-and-go.
I imagine with a turbo, or even a supercharger, the car has to be pretty spiffy.
I just never could justify the cost to buy one.